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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:34 PM   #1366
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In reality they should give Rice slot more snaps because the argument we'll be better in January can imply there. But Moore and Watson being your WR snap leaders doesn't really have a long term gain.
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:34 PM   #1367
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They’ll get the young ones more involved as we go along here. Andy has always done that if said player deserves it


Very true. It was true of Kareem Hunt, and more recently with Pacheco. If the player deserves more touches, he gets it in Andy's offense.


Tbh, exactly how Andy's been using these guys is a little bit puzzling at times so far. But maybe there's a reason I'm unaware of causing that. He's the professional coach, so probably that's it.
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:35 PM   #1368
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It should be OK to critique miscues. I know they just won the SB but you should be able to admit the defense has likely overperformed to expectations this far and the offense and especially receiving corps has underperformed.
100%. and I'm convinced the Offense will come out of it's funk and figure things out - I'm more open to Moore, Rice, Toney, Watson and MVS turning it around than I am James or Ross stepping up
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:37 PM   #1369
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THIS.
Tell me who is disagreeing with the idea that the defense has been better than expected and the WRs worse?

Water is wet?
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:38 PM   #1370
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If Mahomes had Davante, Jakobi, and Renfrow it would be lights out for the rest of the NFL, just hand us the trophy.
Definitely taking either the Raiders or Chargers receivers. We've gone cheap at receiver but are clearly better on the rest of the roster (except also take Jacobs at RB,). You're gonna be mediocre somewhere on the roster.
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:39 PM   #1371
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Sky Moore finally did something. Hopefully he builds on it.
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:42 PM   #1372
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Very true. It was true of Kareem Hunt, and more recently with Pacheco. If the player deserves more touches, he gets it in Andy's offense.


Tbh, exactly how Andy's been using these guys is a little bit puzzling at times so far. But maybe there's a reason I'm unaware of causing that. He's the professional coach, so probably that's it.
No one is perfect but I’ve found when it comes to football stuff, if I have a difference of opinion on something compared to Andy I’m probably wrong
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:45 PM   #1373
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Ah, never thought about it like that.

So the challenge is replacing JJSS’s production?

And do you think that might be an insurmountable task after having traded Tyreek Hill away and replaced his production with a number of different receivers?

Who - ex ante - would you think would be harder to replace? JJSS or Hill?

Not saying replacing production is easy. But also saying we have some track record of success that should prevent these dramatically negative takes following week 2.
Well, there’s a couple of things loaded into that. While I believe we’re capable of much better last years offense was prototypical for efficiency. With juju you’re talking target share, but also a guy who knew where to be and caught everything that came to him.

Two years ago we had tyreek but depth that kept making mistake after mistake. If anything our team for now feels more like two years ago. We’ve lost a step in efficiency and unlike two years ago we don’t have a big hitter like tyreek who can help heal mistakes. So not only did we lose target share but our mistakes force us to press more and so far our best target to do that is Watson… and I’d rather have better options then that.

Ultimately where I’d rather lane is where we should’ve been with tyreek. A legit primary target surrounded by quality depth. I don’t know why people act like replacing juju with a legit wr1 keeps us from running the same efficient offense except with more explosion and consistency
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:48 PM   #1374
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Well, there’s a couple of things loaded into that. While I believe we’re capable of much better last years offense was prototypical for efficiency. With juju you’re talking target share, but also a guy who knew where to be and caught everything that came to him.

Two years ago we had tyreek but depth that kept making mistake after mistake. If anything our team for now feels more like two years ago. We’ve lost a step in efficiency and unlike two years ago we don’t have a big hitter like tyreek who can help heal mistakes. So not only did we lose target share but our mistakes force us to press more and so far our best target to do that is Watson… and I’d rather have better options then that.

Ultimately where I’d rather lane is where we should’ve been with tyreek. A legit primary target surrounded by quality depth. I don’t know why people act like replacing juju with a legit wr1 keeps us from running the same efficient offense except with more explosion and consistency
How do you feel now versus how you felt last year after the Colts game?

And who thinks that replacing JJSS with a legit WR1 would be a bad thing for the offense!? But typically obtaining a WR1 would mean resources being limited elsewhere.
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:50 PM   #1375
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It all comes back to not trading Tyreek

Even after winning the sb
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:50 PM   #1376
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In reality they should give Rice slot more snaps because the argument we'll be better in January can imply there. But Moore and Watson being your WR snap leaders doesn't really have a long term gain.
Have to agree there. You need to look at the ceiling with this group. I jave no qualms with keep running Toney out therr until he ****s his knee up again. He at least has some potential but what are we trying to do with Skyy and Watson? They should be complimentary players. The hope should be that Rice and Ross start taking some snaps away based on talent and then production. Maybe the staff feels this way too but its hard to tell.

Justin Watson is literally this teams #1 WR right now. I'm not making this up.

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Toney........10
Watson.....9
Moore........7
Rice...........7
MVS...........5
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Have to agree there. You need to look at the ceiling with this group. I jave no qualms with keep running Toney out therr until he ****s his knee up again. He at least has some potential but what are we trying to do with Skyy and Watson? They should be complimentary players. The hope should be that Rice and Ross start taking some snaps away based on talent and then production. Maybe the staff feels this way too but its hard to tell.

Justin Watson is literally this teams #1 WR right now. I'm not making this up.

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Toney........10
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Watson.......909 yards
Moore........595 yards
MVS............518 yards
Rice.............416 yards
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James.........51 yards
Ross.............51 yards
2 weeks ago you thought Richie James was their #1 wr

We all kinda stopped paying attention to you
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2 weeks ago you thought Richie James was their #1 wr

We all kinda stopped paying attention to you
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Sky Moore finally did something. Hopefully he builds on it.
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