****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

Does a little critiquing of problems that arise within the team, whether it be week 1 or week 17 make me less of a fan?

Brett Veach, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, whoever... aren't a religion. I don't have to have blind faith that every single move they make, or every single play that take is the correct move. We are afforded that as fans to be critics of the team we root for.

No, but you're having a difficult time in this thread - one might say even impossible - acknowledging that this WR group is very, very similar to the one that was adequate enough to be part of the best offense in the NFL last season and the most efficient in recent memory.

If this were the first game last year where the offense had no track record of success, I'd fully understand any hand-wringing. But if you're already very concerned, then 1/ you feel the WRs have clear room to regress despite the fact that players their age typically do the opposite; 2/ you feel JuJu was so important that the addition of Rice and James is immaterial; 3/ you feel the NFL will catch up to the Chiefs and Mahomes; or 4/ you're just responding with a lack of logic and being hyper-reactionary based on the sample size of 1 game without Kelce.

I'm penciling you down for 4. That's all.

A lot of people here dramatically overrated this group in the preseason and now there's some massive overcorrection. At this point in their careers, the WRs are fairly average and a product of the greatness of Mahomes (and Kelce to a lesser degree). But that doesn't mean they're not ascending as a whole, can't improve over the course of the season, and can't play a major role in winning another SB.

(And no, you clearly still don't understand what I was getting at with respect to JuJu and MVS.)

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

No, but you're having a difficult time in this thread - one might say even impossible - acknowledging that this WR group is very, very similar to the one that was adequate enough to be part of the best offense in the NFL last season and the most efficient in recent memory.

If this were the first game last year where the offense had no track record of success, I'd fully understand any hand-wringing. But if you're already very concerned, then 1/ you feel the WRs have clear room to regress despite the fact that players their age typically do the opposite; 2/ you feel JuJu was so important that the addition of Rice and James is immaterial; 3/ you feel the NFL will catch up to the Chiefs and Mahomes; or 4/ you're just responding with a lack of logic and being hyper-reactionary based on the sample size of 1 game without Kelce.

I'm penciling you down for 4. That's all.

A lot of people here dramatically overrated this group in the preseason and now there's some massive overcorrection. At this point in their careers, the WRs are fairly average and a product of the greatness of Mahomes (and Kelce to a lesser degree). But that doesn't mean they're not ascending as a whole, can't improve over the course of the season, and can't play a major role in winning another SB.

(And no, you clearly still don't understand what I was getting at with respect to JuJu and MVS.)

Yap yap yap.

Then clearly you are unable to articulate very well what you are getting at with respect to MVS and Juju. You were the one who brought Juju up. I wasn't even thinking of him.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

One thing I noticed is that MVS was useless bc they kept 2 safeties deep to cut off the deep pass, particularly in the 2nd half.

thats not true at all, not even close. Look at the all-22. MVS, Ross and Watson were open all game deep. It’s on film. Not saying what that means or why it occurred. But, it’s fact.

[T-post Tom]

Jarvis Landry Is 30 & a FA. Despite having seven wide receivers, this team could use an experienced veteran presence in the wide receiver group. Should the Chiefs bring him in for a look? I think he had an ankle injury last year. No idea if he has anything left in the tank. Maybe someone more familiar could elaborate on his potential contribution to the team. (He’s been in five pro bowls, if that means anything.)

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

We're drafting and developing the WR room. Variety in skill sets is a good thing. Exercise a little patience and see what happens. I'm certain they won't all fail, and I'm certain that the team will continue to draft talent, as WR's are expensive.

I’d expect Veach to draft a WR in the first or second round most years. Have to keep those cheap WR salaries in the cap.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Jarvis Landry Is 30 & a FA. Despite having seven wide receivers, this team could use an experienced veteran presence in the wide receiver group. Should the Chiefs bring him in for a look? I think he had an ankle injury last year. No idea if he has anything left in the tank. Maybe someone more familiar could elaborate on his potential contribution to the team. (He’s been in five pro bowls, if that means anything.)

I've always kind of liked Landry. He's always been a solid WR. Not flashy at all, but smart and consistent.

He's just 30, so maybe he's still got some tread left.

[Chief Pagan]

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan View Post
Maybe we don't absolutely need a Tyreek, but it sure would be nice to have a healthy JuJu type receiver that knows the playbook that can body up and reliably catch the ball even in traffic when Mahomes drills it into him on third and medium

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Maybe we already have that. It's only been one game.

yea maybe.

I get you can't be perfect at every position with the salary cap. If Toney didn't have some sort of issue he wouldn't have been available for a third round pick.

But it is frustrating that the team doesn't have a veteran JAG with solid hands in the chain mover category outside Kelce.

Given Andy's complicated passing offense, the WR turnover is...

A bit startling.

Yes, MVS and Skyy aren't rookies. But it isn't like either were a mainstay of the offense either. It's a mostly newish group.



Given how complicated

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Jarvis Landry Is 30 & a FA. Despite having seven wide receivers, this team could use an experienced veteran presence in the wide receiver group. Should the Chiefs bring him in for a look? I think he had an ankle injury last year. No idea if he has anything left in the tank. Maybe someone more familiar could elaborate on his potential contribution to the team. (He’s been in five pro bowls, if that means anything.)

HELL YEAH! Just 42069 more posts to sign Landry! Great call Tom!

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Patrick played well but he deserves some blame as well. He missed some throws and some reads. On 3rd and 20 and the end of the game he had a WIDE OPEN Noah Gray and chose to throw a no chance ball into double coverage to Rice. He missed Skyy Moore either by not getting him the ball or making a poor pass as well.

It's just like last year. This team was in a funk for a while in the early stages of the season. They figured it out in time and were good to go when it mattered.

You could also say the same for the young secondary except they brought back all the CB's. Now they're playing ball. Turning over the roster vs bringing everyone back in an aspect to the game that goes overlooked. By mid season it's been resolved.

We'll be just fine but there will be more growing pains. Need to get Ross reps as well.

Skyy and Pat need to go camping or something. Those two have no chemistry. You could tell in his press conference when speaking of Skyy he doesn't like what he's seeing but said he's talented. May need to just scrap Moore for Rice sooner than later.

[Stryker]

This is ridiculous! KT should have NEVER been out there - he was not ready. We were never going to go undefeated - this game is a rematch of the Colts game last season - guess what? WE WON the SB! Give this game a rest already. Kelce will be back next game and the world will realign itself. I am not giving up on the team I love over a 1 point loss to an NFC team. Dear God!

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

That’s a fine strategy as long as you eventually hit and you’re not wed to any one pick for too long if they just can’t make it work (like Skyy so far thru 20+ games).

Realistic that Rice is unlikely to know the offense to the degree that Andy demands, but we can’t have a receiver on the field for 80% of the passing plays only get target 3 times and whiff when the ball comes his way. Almost at the point of giving up on him (which admittedly would be stupid at this point), but not holding my breath either. Hopefully, someone steps up to such a degree that it’s impossible for Andy not to notice (like Pacheco last season).

Agreed. I mean, we’ve pieced together a WR rotation for years with cheap parts. We can continue to build the WR corps that way. Worst case scenario, that’s the best we can do. We don’t have to change what we do except that we more deliberately target x/y WRs with high draft assets.

Probably repeatedly because we have to be ready to churn these WRs as they come up for contract.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

'One thing I noticed' was flat wrong.

MVS was anything but useless and the 2-high looks didn't prevent shit. MVS was constantly open and the 2-high would've been eviscerated had Mahomes attacked it.

You're just wrong there.

They just showed this on the NFLN Pregame Show.

We had guys wide open down the field and 15 either missed them or was facing pressure.

[KCUnited]

It’s possible Mahomes was thrown off by Taylor over there kick starting a Vespa before every pass play

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

They just showed this on the NFLN Pregame Show.

We had guys wide open down the field and 15 either missed them or was facing pressure.

I'm confused I thought the O-Line did well, I didn't see Patrick under a lot of pressure. That's not encouraging to read TBH.

I think having Kelce back will help the wheels turn and little smoother, assuming Travis plays?

[Chris Meck]

We've seen this happen before, even when we had Hill, and fewer new pieces. And everyone panicked, and dude said we wouldn't sniff the playoffs, and other dude asked if Mahomes was a flash in the pan.

It'll be alright. They'll get it together.