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Old 09-07-2023, 09:39 PM  
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We need to talk about 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1.

I'm not lying when I say that I'm more confident that we'll convert 3rd and 17 than 3rd and 1.

Why? What's the blind spot here? If nothing else, should they just pretend that every 3rd and 1 is actually 3rd and 17?

In the thread below, indulge me and tell me what our go-to play on 3rd and 1 should be.

I'll start. Mahomes option right with a running back wide of him. We'll convert that play 97 percent of the time.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:24 PM   #46
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For a while they did exactly that. They had that big oaf at FB. Burton I think. And they ran him up the gut and he moved the chains. Until one time he didn't. Then they just gave up on it altogether.
No Burton wasn't good either. He had 5 attempts for 7 yards and only got 2 first downs on those attempts. His longest run was 6 yards so that means he gained a quarter of a yard on each of his remaining carries
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:24 PM   #47
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:25 PM   #48
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Play calling was ridiculously bad tonight.

But not surprised, it has been bad for a while now.
Bad play calling doesn't lead to a SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP.

We have a 3rd and 1 problem. WBF.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:27 PM   #49
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3rd and 1

Is our kryptonite, and has been for awhile now. We need to fix this shit. It's maddening.

EDIT - sorry didn't see the other thread. Mods, plz delete or merge. Sorry about that.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:27 PM   #50
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:28 PM   #51
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We continue the kick the ball when we should be going for it
This is how it will always be with Andy and we're just going to have to be okay with that.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:29 PM   #52
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Confuse the **** out of them by putting on our FG unit at 2nd and 1, then do a trick play and have Butker throw to Townsend.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:29 PM   #53
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:29 PM   #54
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Maybe if they’d let future HOF player Justyn Ross play they’d win
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:30 PM   #55
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I'm not lying when I say that I'm more confident that we'll convert 3rd and 17 than 3rd and 1.

Why? What's the blind spot here? If nothing else, should they just pretend that every 3rd and 1 is actually 3rd and 17?

In the thread below, indulge me and tell me what our go-to play on 3rd and 1 should be.

I'll start. Mahomes option right with a running back wide of him. We'll convert that play 97 percent of the time.
Right? I feel the same way (so much so that I accidentally started a thread about it before I saw this one).
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:30 PM   #56
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3rd and 1 on offense and 3rd and long on defense. Same shit, different year. Defense played great tonight, but I hate their scheme on third and long. Short yardage offense just sucks ass. We need to jam Andy's radio transmissions on third and short and let Mahomes call his own plays.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:33 PM   #57
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We continue the kick the ball when we should be going for it
Yeah we are always going to do it with Andy. I've just learned to live with it. If I try to cite probabilities people just get mad and say do you think you know more than Andy Reid!?!?

For example, when we kicked it instead of going for it on the 4th and 2 our win probability actually went DOWN 2%.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:34 PM   #58
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I'm more curious as to why we feel it necessary to go for 4th and 25 in our own territory when the clock is still north of the two minute warning and we have all of our timeouts.
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:36 PM   #59
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I'm more curious as to why we feel it necessary to go for 4th and 25 in our own territory when the clock is still north of the two minute warning and we have all of our timeouts.
Never before has going for it on 4th down seemed more like waving a white flag
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Old 09-07-2023, 10:38 PM   #60
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Short yardage reminded me of the 2017 playoff game versus Titans second half.

Nagy called shitty plays that did not work then and same damn thing today.
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