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Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-29-2023, 07:58 PM   #3016
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I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)


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Old 08-29-2023, 07:58 PM   #3017
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Lost them all?

They won a championship the same year they traded Hill. I’d say that’s a win.

Not paying OBJ stupid money is also a win in everyone’s book except yours apparently.

Well they ended up paying similarly ‘stupid’ money for another player who we don’t know that much about at this point.

As for Hill, my point being like Jones and OBJ we seem to be a magnet for these kind of vicious disputes in a way other teams do not? Guess we’re just unlucky


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Old 08-29-2023, 07:59 PM   #3018
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I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)


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In what world did he lose the Hill and OBJ contract issues? Traded Hill for 5 picks and won the SB. Won the SB and got better at LT letting OBJ walk.
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Old 08-29-2023, 08:00 PM   #3019
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In what world did he lose the Hill and OBJ contract issues? Traded Hill for 5 picks and won the SB. Won the SB and got better at LT letting OBJ walk.

AFAIK in both cases the team ‘wanted’ to resign both.

My point was he lost the players. Obviously the eventual outcome worked out ok but it clearly wasn’t the plan to ship them out.


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Old 08-29-2023, 08:01 PM   #3020
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That's bullshit.

How naive do you have to be to think that is a leak from either side?

Does not say anything about what was offered or asked for.
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Old 08-29-2023, 08:03 PM   #3021
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Well they ended up paying similarly ‘stupid’ money for another player who we don’t know that much about at this point.

As for Hill, my point being like Jones and OBJ we seem to be a magnet for these kind of vicious disputes in a way other teams do not? Guess we’re just unlucky


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“Vicious disputes”?

Is it possible you’re exaggerating how these went because you’re a fan of the Chiefs while also ignoring that these sorts of situations arise with most others teams in the NFL?
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Old 08-29-2023, 08:04 PM   #3022
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AFAIK in both cases the team ‘wanted’ to resign both.

My point was he lost the players. Obviously the eventual outcome worked out ok but it clearly wasn’t the plan to ship them out.


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Sounds like you’re describing a GM who refuses to overpay and knows how to replace expensive talent with draft picks and reasonable free agents, while continuing to be the class of the entire NFL.
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Sounds like you’re describing a GM who refuses to overpay and knows how to replace expensive talent with draft picks and reasonable free agents, while continuing to be the class of the entire NFL.

Fair enough


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Well they ended up paying similarly ‘stupid’ money for another player who we don’t know that much about at this point.

As for Hill, my point being like Jones and OBJ we seem to be a magnet for these kind of vicious disputes in a way other teams do not? Guess we’re just unlucky


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We’re in no way unique—I think you’re just not paying attention to other teams’ nasty, public contract disputes because you’re a Chiefs fan.

Nick Bosa? Jonathan Taylor? Zack Martin?

Hell, even Emmitt Smith missed games during a holdout in the early 90s.
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You can go ahead and provide your information to help save the stupid mother****ers around here from being misled.

You may not need to worry, you might be the only one who reads what I post.

If you are a TJ Watt fan, I recommend you not cast a spell on him by claiming he is some exception.
Put the crack pipe down.

The Chris Jones situation is unique because of Aaron Donald. His contract is entirely off market. I would take the next 4 years of Quinnen Williams at 24/yr than the next 4 for CJ at 28/yr 10/10 times and I’m sure most GMs in the NFL would as well.
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Nobody here, that I’ve seen, has claimed the tactics employed by Watt and Bosa are “wise”. The argument is that it isn’t a fair comparison to CJ due to age and position. I’ve no doubt that if either of those “white guys” were in KC trying to torpedo a shot at a repeat the reaction would be the same as it is now with CJ.

Just knock it the **** off already.
Well, making a qualitative judgment of Jones and his agent's tactics looks incomplete if you do not mentiion that Nick Bosa's agent who has star client list including Joe Burrow and Justin Jefferson is doing the same tactics and likely asking for a higher price.
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AFAIK in both cases the team ‘wanted’ to resign both.

My point was he lost the players. Obviously the eventual outcome worked out ok but it clearly wasn’t the plan to ship them out.


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OBJ ended up getting less in free agency than what the Chiefs offered him last summer.
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Well, making a qualitative judgment of Jones and his agent's tactics looks incomplete if you do not mentiion that Nick Bosa's agent who has star client list including Joe Burrow and Justin Jefferson is doing the same tactics and likely asking for a higher price.
Only to you because you are choosing to ignore differences in the situations.
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How the else would you describe the Bosas and the Watts and how many games missed due to injury?
For starters? Defensive Players of the Year.

Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and TJ Watt have been demonstrably BETTER players than Chris Jones. So THATS probably now I'd describe them.

I mean you could start there before 5 paragraphs of thinly veiled accusations of racism and ridiculous histrionics.
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Only to you because you are choosing to ignore differences in the situations.
Bullshit. this whole thread ignores the similarities of the situation and talks about Jones and his agents as being wrong because the agents do not have a lot of clients and no other star players like Jones.

Nick Bosa and his agent are using the same tactics and his agent has plenty of star clients.
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