Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 201

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

kcmaxwell · 08-29-2023, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/...A9xJjPX3g&s=19

Did someone in the organization just hand out cards for this guy?

jettio · 08-29-2023, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/...A9xJjPX3g&s=19

So are you familiar with the Bay Area NFL team called the 49ers and the Nick Bosa situation?

Here is the link to the client list of that agent who has his client using the same approach.

https://fanspo.com/nfl/agents/brian-ayrault/37036

jettio · 08-29-2023, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Really. Someone leaked he was asking for $31.5 and Jones hasn't disputed this, so most likely it's someone within the Chiefs leaking that info. If what the Chiefs were offering was not fair, the Jones team would have leaked it long ago... that's how these things work.

Bullshit. Nobody has leaked any numbers.

jettio · 08-29-2023, 07:36 PM

Anyway, the Bosas and the Watts are oft injured and always get the deal they want.

And have any of their injuries been because of another player falling on a joint or getting hit by another player?

They always seem to get some testing the limits of physiology injury and just miss games.

Yeah, but TJ Watts 2021 hold-in and Nick Bosa not reporting at the same time that Chris Jones does not report is wisdom and smart representation and Jones' agent must be dumb and inexperienced.

At least TJ Watt tied the sack record in 2021, and waited until 2022 to miss games for a torn pec.

I suppose we will see how it plays out. I expect Nick Bosa and Chris Jones will get extensions this week, but we will just have to see.

Bosa probably gets more than $30 million AAV with 3 years guaranteed.

Chiefs should be willing to offer at least $28 million AAV with 2024 and 2025 guaranteed. If they never offer that, that would be a mistake.

TwistedChief · 08-29-2023, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Anyway, the Bosas and the Watts are oft injured and always get the deal they want.

Can we rewind to the part where you have no idea what you're talking about with respect to TJ Watt's injury history? Can you acknowledge that before you keep throwing out this misinformation to mislead people here in support of your weak argument?

**notorious** · 08-29-2023, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Anyway, the Bosas and the Watts are oft injured and always get the deal they want.

And have any of their injuries been because of another player falling on a joint or getting hit by another player?

They always seem to get some testing the limits of physiology injury and just miss games.

Yeah, but TJ Watts 2021 hold-in and Nick Bosa not reporting at the same time that Chris Jones does not report is wisdom and smart representation and Jones' agent must be dumb and inexperienced.

At least TJ Watt tied the sack record in 2021, and waited until 2022 to miss games for a torn pec.

I suppose we will see how it plays out. I expect Nick Bosa and Chris Jones will get extensions this week, but we will just have to see.

Bosa probably gets more than $30 million AAV with 3 years guaranteed.

Chiefs should be willing to offer at least $28 million AAV with 2024 and 2025 guaranteed. If they never offer that, that would be a mistake.

There is a reason why the Bosas and the Watts have empty trophy cases.

milkshock · 08-29-2023, 07:44 PM

I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)

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Raiderhater · 08-29-2023, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Anyway, the Bosas and the Watts are oft injured and always get the deal they want.

And have any of their injuries been because of another player falling on a joint or getting hit by another player?

They always seem to get some testing the limits of physiology injury and just miss games.

Yeah, but TJ Watts 2021 hold-in and Nick Bosa not reporting at the same time that Chris Jones does not report is wisdom and smart representation and Jones' agent must be dumb and inexperienced.

At least TJ Watt tied the sack record in 2021, and waited until 2022 to miss games for a torn pec.

I suppose we will see how it plays out. I expect Nick Bosa and Chris Jones will get extensions this week, but we will just have to see.

Bosa probably gets more than $30 million AAV with 3 years guaranteed.

Chiefs should be willing to offer at least $28 million AAV with 2024 and 2025 guaranteed. If they never offer that, that would be a mistake.

Nobody here, that I’ve seen, has claimed the tactics employed by Watt and Bosa are “wise”. The argument is that it isn’t a fair comparison to CJ due to age and position. I’ve no doubt that if either of those “white guys” were in KC trying to torpedo a shot at a repeat the reaction would be the same as it is now with CJ.

Just knock it the **** off already.

TwistedChief · 08-29-2023, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)

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Lost them all?

I guess you're forgetting when we signed Chris Jones last time. When we signed Hill before this last time. When we didn't overpay for OBJ and that's a good thing. When we kept Mahomes at reasonable value. When we kept Kelce at reasonable value.

And as for WR, did we not have JuJu at the exact point when it was required? How about Sammy Watkins?

Yeah, I guess if you just want to view things in a negative light, this front office has failed to do anything positive.

Raiderhater · 08-29-2023, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)

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I just can’t even with this right now…

IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-29-2023, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

Bullshit. Nobody has leaked any numbers.

Really?

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/25/ch...d-level-salary

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Jones is seeking an extension in the neighborhood of $30 million in average annual value, sources told Sports Illustrated’s Greg Bishop. Jones, one of the best interior pass rushers in the NFL, is seeking Aaron Donald-type money in his next contract

Someone's the source...

**notorious** · 08-29-2023, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)

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Wut

**Dunit35** · 08-29-2023, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by milkshock

I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)

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Lost them all?

They won a championship the same year they traded Hill. I’d say that’s a win.

Not paying OBJ stupid money is also a win in everyone’s book except yours apparently.

**notorious** · 08-29-2023, 07:52 PM

Veach has brought in countless free agents that contributed HUGE to the Chief’s success.

Good lord.

jettio · 08-29-2023, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Can we rewind to the part where you have no idea what you're talking about with respect to TJ Watt's injury history? Can you acknowledge that before you keep throwing out this misinformation to mislead people here in support of your weak argument?

You can go ahead and provide your information to help save the stupid mother****ers around here from being misled.

You may not need to worry, you might be the only one who reads what I post.

If you are a TJ Watt fan, I recommend you not cast a spell on him by claiming he is some exception.

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jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $4504930	Anyway, the Bosas and the Watts are oft injured and always get the deal they want. And have any of their injuries been because of another player falling on a joint or getting hit by another player? They always seem to get some testing the limits of physiology injury and just miss games. Yeah, but TJ Watts 2021 hold-in and Nick Bosa not reporting at the same time that Chris Jones does not report is wisdom and smart representation and Jones' agent must be dumb and inexperienced. At least TJ Watt tied the sack record in 2021, and waited until 2022 to miss games for a torn pec. I suppose we will see how it plays out. I expect Nick Bosa and Chris Jones will get extensions this week, but we will just have to see. Bosa probably gets more than $30 million AAV with 3 years guaranteed. Chiefs should be willing to offer at least $28 million AAV with 2024 and 2025 guaranteed. If they never offer that, that would be a mistake. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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