The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by jettio

Talking about reality. Chiefs won the Super Bowl and Chris Jones was DPOY finalist.

You think Nick Bosa becoming no.1 or no. 2 highest paid defender in the league by the 49ers, is going to have no effect on how Chiefs players view their job if Chiefs best offer to Jones is not as good as TJ Watt got last year?

The mother****ers on chiefs planet that do not like to see athletes get paid are not exactly like the players in the Chiefs locker room.

I’m not one of those people who has any problem with how much these athletes are paid. I work in an industry that’s compensated similarly and know people who make multiples of what Chris Jones will make with whatever deal he ends up signing. This is the market for talent in the NFL - I encourage all players to try to maximize their earnings.

But first, Bosa and Watt are younger and play a premium position, and those are important differences. You think Bolton is like, “The Chiefs only offered 27mm/yr to CJ instead of 30mm/yr. This team doesn’t value its players and now I feel more inclined to leave!” No way.

Second, the idea that this team doesn’t pay its defensive players? Come on. This team is still struggling with the Frank Clark contract. CJ’s last contract was third in the league in AAV at the time and tied for first in guaranteed money for a defensive player.

Step off the ledge. You’d be a terrible GM if you operated out of fear like this.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Nick Bosa is significantly younger than Jones.

Yeah, and Nick Bosa missed most of 2018 at Ohio State and most of 2020 at 49ers and his brother Joey is same draft class as Jones and has 84 regular season games played compared to Jones 107 regular season games played.

You have these workout warrior white guys from football families with injury histories and one of them is holding out just like Jones is now and the stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet are like oblivious to those guys and their contracts and holdouts when pissing and moaning about Chris Jones and his agents.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I’m not one of those people who has any problem with how much these athletes are paid. I work in an industry that’s compensated similarly and know people who make multiples of what Chris Jones will make with whatever deal he ends up signing. This is the market for talent in the NFL - I encourage all players to try to maximize their earnings.

But first, Bosa and Watt are younger and play a premium position, and those are important differences. You think Bolton is like, “The Chiefs only offered 27mm/yr to CJ instead of 30mm/yr. This team doesn’t value its players and now I feel more inclined to leave!” No way.

Second, the idea that this team doesn’t pay its defensive players? Come on. This team is still struggling with the Frank Clark contract. CJ’s last contract was third in the league in AAV at the time and tied for first in guaranteed money for a defensive player.

Step off the ledge. You’d be a terrible GM if you operated out of fear like this.

Well, I think an extension gets done, but you are a fool if you think not getting an extension done will not be noticed by the players.

Everybody knows what the Bosas and the Watts get paid and how many games those guys have missed.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by jettio

Yeah, and Nick Bosa missed most of 2018 at Ohio State and most of 2020 at 49ers and his brother Joey is same draft class as Jones and has 84 regular season games played compared to Jones 107 regular season games played.

You have these workout warrior white guys from football families with injury histories and one of them is holding out just like Jones is now and the stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet are like oblivious to those guys and their contracts and holdouts when pissing and moaning about Chris Jones and his agents.

What an absolutely awful, emotional take.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by jettio

Well, I think an extension gets done, but you are a fool if you think not getting an extension done will not be noticed by the players.

Everybody knows what the Bosas and the Watts get paid and how many games those guys have missed.

Do you think the 49ers and Steelers are getting discounts because those players have missed time? Absolutely not.

So why would players in the locker room be factoring that in?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by jettio

Well, I think an extension gets done, but you are a fool if you think not getting an extension done will not be noticed by the players.

Everybody knows what the Bosas and the Watts get paid and how many games those guys have missed.

They will notice, but they also understand that it's a business and just giving in to whatever he demands will only hurt them due to the finite amount of money on the cap. It's not like Veach/Hunt are hoarding Jones' money to buy a new yacht. Thinking that this will impact them negatively is similar to saying that the players will notice and react negatively because of RB contracts.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by jettio

Yeah, and Nick Bosa missed most of 2018 at Ohio State and most of 2020 at 49ers and his brother Joey is same draft class as Jones and has 84 regular season games played compared to Jones 107 regular season games played.

You have these workout warrior white guys from football families with injury histories and one of them is holding out just like Jones is now and the stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet are like oblivious to those guys and their contracts and holdouts when pissing and moaning about Chris Jones and his agents.

The crux of the matter is race in your opinion?

[tyreekthefreak]

Originally Posted by jettio

Yeah, and Nick Bosa missed most of 2018 at Ohio State and most of 2020 at 49ers and his brother Joey is same draft class as Jones and has 84 regular season games played compared to Jones 107 regular season games played.

You have these workout warrior white guys from football families with injury histories and one of them is holding out just like Jones is now and the stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet are like oblivious to those guys and their contracts and holdouts when pissing and moaning about Chris Jones and his agents.

I could care less about other teams holdouts.....the Chiefs are my team!!!!!

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by jettio

Yeah, and Nick Bosa missed most of 2018 at Ohio State and most of 2020 at 49ers and his brother Joey is same draft class as Jones and has 84 regular season games played compared to Jones 107 regular season games played.

You have these workout warrior white guys from football families with injury histories and one of them is holding out just like Jones is now and the stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet are like oblivious to those guys and their contracts and holdouts when pissing and moaning about Chris Jones and his agents.

My God... you are an emotional wreck. Locker rooms are the great melting pot, if you can play, it doesn't matter what color you are... period. Bosa Brothers are great talents at a premium position and younger. Chris Jones got a great second contract at the time, and was on pace to parlay his best season ever into the top paid DT 3rd contract, behind Aaron Donald. The Aaron Donald contract was not smart and is an outlier and the effects it had on that Rams roster has been devastating. If the contract is $25-$26m for 4 with $70m guaranteed, jones should take it. If not, he bares the consequence, because I don't want the Chiefs overpaying for aging Vets. That's a good way to shut your window well ahead of time.

Also, if you think the locker room loves this, you are wrong. If Jones is getting a fair offer and the Chiefs caved and gave him more, that's just less of a pie for the other guys.

[TwistedChief]

This has just gone past the stage of “Well, props to the guy for trying to maximize what he’s getting paid.”

If he doesn’t show up in the next 48hrs, he likely hurts himself financially in the short, medium, and long term while also making the team demonstrably worse.

I just can’t get past stupid and unreasonable, and I think fans finally have a very solid leg to stand on when they’re extremely disappointed with the course he’s chosen.

Nose cut off. Face spited. No one wins.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by tredadda

What an absolutely awful, emotional take.

How the else would you describe the Bosas and the Watts and how many games missed due to injury?

Yeah other elite defenders are never going to notice how those guys always get paid and always miss games.

And the fact that all of these comments by anyone else in this thread make no mention at all of Nick Bosa and his agent doing the same thing and not reporting.

Like stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet like badmouthing our player and his agent and accept without question a Bosa or Watt being the highest paid injured mother****ers in the world.

[PHOG]

WTF?!?!

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by jettio

How the else would you describe the Bosas and the Watts and how many games missed due to injury?

Yeah other elite defenders are never going to notice how those guys always get paid and always miss games.

And the fact that all of these comments by anyone else in this thread make no mention at all of Nick Bosa and his agent doing the same thing and not reporting.

Like stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet like badmouthing our player and his agent and accept without question a Bosa or Watt being the highest paid injured mother****ers in the world.

What a race baiting reeruned jackass. Take your bullshit racist crap and kindly go **** yourself.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by jettio

How the else would you describe the Bosas and the Watts and how many games missed due to injury?

Yeah other elite defenders are never going to notice how those guys always get paid and always miss games.
And the fact that all of these comments by anyone else in this thread make no mention at all of Nick Bosa and his agent doing the same thing and not reporting.

Like stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet like badmouthing our player and his agent and accept without question a Bosa or Watt being the highest paid injured mother****ers in the world.

Nick Bosa is a 49er... So that's one reason I don't give a shit. Second, this is his first real pay day, his 2nd contract, he's 25 and really good when healthy. If I'm the 49ers I would be careful with the injury history of the amount I was paying and what is guaranteed. The Chiefs did Jones fairly on his 2nd contract, extremely fair. He is now older and you have to be very careful and not overpay based on emotion. We seem to have figured this out, thank God. It sucks to lose great players, but if you offer a fair deal, and they won't take it, you move on.

[hawkchief]

Originally Posted by jettio

How the else would you describe the Bosas and the Watts and how many games missed due to injury?

Yeah other elite defenders are never going to notice how those guys always get paid and always miss games.

And the fact that all of these comments by anyone else in this thread make no mention at all of Nick Bosa and his agent doing the same thing and not reporting.

Like stupid mother****ers on chiefs planet like badmouthing our player and his agent and accept without question a Bosa or Watt being the highest paid injured mother****ers in the world.

Wow! You should go let your Mommy hold you and make you feel better. Most on here think Veach is probably smarter than you, FYI.