The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

I think CJ’s rep won’t even be that positive the way this is playing out. He might end up even lower than Neil Smith on that hate list.

His pulling a Joe Gallo on the franchise is worse than anything Neil Smith did.

Obviously, he's also done more than Smith to help the team win. But this stinks.

[jettio]

So today went the same way for Nick Bosa and the 49ers and for Chris Jones and the Chiefs. Reserve/did not report and maybe part of that is helping with setting first 53 man roster.

Funny thing is, everybody knows Bosa will not come in unless he is the highest paid defensive player, period.

Considering that Nick Bosa and his agent have made similar decisions and neither Jones nor the Chiefs have leaked offer terms, it is best to see how both situations play out compared to the other before judging or getting emotional about it.

It is naive to think that not extending Chris Jones is the play here. At some point, Chiefs defensive players need to see one of their own treated like a star..

Spotrac estimates a 16 million increase in salary cap per year for the next several years.

I don't think it would look good for Chiefs if Nick Bosa gets extended as highest paid defender in the league and Chiefs do not bump their last offer to something they expect Chris Jones will accept.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by jettio

It is naive to think that not extending Chris Jones is the play here. At some point, Chiefs defensive players need to see one of their own treated like a star..

Spotrac estimates a 16 million increase in salary cap per year for the next several years.

I don't think it would look good for Chiefs if Nick Bosa gets extended as highest paid defender in the league and Chiefs do not bump their last offer to something they expect Chris Jones will accept.

So he wasn’t treated like a star when he signed his last deal? What are you talking about?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by jettio

So today went the same way for Nick Bosa and the 49ers and for Chris Jones and the Chiefs. Reserve/did not report and maybe part of that is helping with setting first 53 man roster.

Funny thing is, everybody knows Bosa will not come in unless he is the highest paid defensive player, period.

Considering that Nick Bosa and his agent have made similar decisions and neither Jones nor the Chiefs have leaked offer terms, it is best to see how both situations play out compared to the other before judging or getting emotional about it.

It is naive to think that not extending Chris Jones is the play here. At some point, Chiefs defensive players need to see one of their own treated like a star..

Spotrac estimates a 16 million increase in salary cap per year for the next several years.

I don't think it would look good for Chiefs if Nick Bosa gets extended as highest paid defender in the league and Chiefs do not bump their last offer to something they expect Chris Jones will accept.

Bosa is a 25 year old reigning DPOY. He is worth what he's asking. Jones is 29 and (from all accounts) is looking to not only be the second highest paid DT, but doing so with a salary a smidge under Donald. It's not like he's trying to be smack in between Donald and the current #2. He wants almost Donald money which is too much given his age.

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by jettio

So today went the same way for Nick Bosa and the 49ers and for Chris Jones and the Chiefs. Reserve/did not report and maybe part of that is helping with setting first 53 man roster.

Funny thing is, everybody knows Bosa will not come in unless he is the highest paid defensive player, period.

Considering that Nick Bosa and his agent have made similar decisions and neither Jones nor the Chiefs have leaked offer terms, it is best to see how both situations play out compared to the other before judging or getting emotional about it.

It is naive to think that not extending Chris Jones is the play here. At some point, Chiefs defensive players need to see one of their own treated like a star..

Spotrac estimates a 16 million increase in salary cap per year for the next several years.

I don't think it would look good for Chiefs if Nick Bosa gets extended as highest paid defender in the league and Chiefs do not bump their last offer to something they expect Chris Jones will accept.

Completely disagree with the idea that other Chiefs’ defensive players need to see Chris Jones get overpaid going into his 30s. Aaron Donald’s contract was above market and a reach from a team that panicked. It’s not good business to make salary cap decisions based on another team’s mistake. Extending Jones is a good idea, IF the number makes sense for the team now and going forward. That said, I’m riding with Veach and company on this…whatever they decide. They’ve earned my trust.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

So he wasn’t treated like a star when he signed his last deal? What are you talking about?

Talking about reality. Chiefs won the Super Bowl and Chris Jones was DPOY finalist.

You think Nick Bosa becoming no.1 or no. 2 highest paid defender in the league by the 49ers, is going to have no effect on how Chiefs players view their job if Chiefs best offer to Jones is not as good as TJ Watt got last year?

The mother****ers on chiefs planet that do not like to see athletes get paid are not exactly like the players in the Chiefs locker room.

[Punwit]

Originally Posted by jettio

Talking about reality. Chiefs won the Super Bowl and Chris Jones was DPOY finalist.

You think Nick Bosa becoming no.1 or no. 2 highest paid defender in the league by the 49ers, is going to have no effect on how Chiefs players view their job if Chiefs best offer to Jones is not as good as TJ Watt got last year?

The mother****ers on chiefs planet that do not like to see athletes get paid are not exactly like the players in the Chiefs locker room.

Pat left money on the table so others could get paid. What I want is to see Chris pay it forward, NOT stop the money train at Jonesboro.

[Valiant]

I just doesn't make sense to hold out. We signed him to a lot the last time. He is still currently the 8th highest paid player of his position.
From what we are offering to what he wants is literally the games he will miss. He is pissing away ten million dollars to get ten extra million?

Were his best years when he wanted new contracts? Last year and end of rookie deal?

If it goes that far. Hopefully he comes back angry and dominates. Because if he comes back and does nothing or gets injured he is out way more money.

At his age if we keep him going forward and with most players. Start giving them good base salaries with bonuses to keep them hungry.
Ten million a year, million a sack to 10. Then another 10 million at 16 sacks. Something like that.

[Arch Stanton]

^^^^^Exactly Right.^^^^^

Pay for results.

Would make it hard ta calculate the cap, tho.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by jettio

So today went the same way for Nick Bosa and the 49ers and for Chris Jones and the Chiefs. Reserve/did not report and maybe part of that is helping with setting first 53 man roster.

Funny thing is, everybody knows Bosa will not come in unless he is the highest paid defensive player, period.

Considering that Nick Bosa and his agent have made similar decisions and neither Jones nor the Chiefs have leaked offer terms, it is best to see how both situations play out compared to the other before judging or getting emotional about it.

It is naive to think that not extending Chris Jones is the play here. At some point, Chiefs defensive players need to see one of their own treated like a star..

Spotrac estimates a 16 million increase in salary cap per year for the next several years.

I don't think it would look good for Chiefs if Nick Bosa gets extended as highest paid defender in the league and Chiefs do not bump their last offer to something they expect Chris Jones will accept.

Hey Michael Katz thanks for posting! Could you tell Jones to fire you and come back with a contract in his hand that makes him the highest paid DT at $24.5M please.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Completely disagree with the idea that other Chiefs’ defensive players need to see Chris Jones get overpaid going into his 30s. Aaron Donald’s contract was above market and a reach from a team that panicked. It’s not good business to make salary cap decisions based on another team’s mistake. Extending Jones is a good idea, IF the number makes sense for the team now and going forward. That said, I’m riding with Veach and company on this…whatever they decide. They’ve earned my trust.

Pretty sure nothing the Rams GM does should be copied.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by jettio

So today went the same way for Nick Bosa and the 49ers and for Chris Jones and the Chiefs. Reserve/did not report and maybe part of that is helping with setting first 53 man roster.

Funny thing is, everybody knows Bosa will not come in unless he is the highest paid defensive player, period.

Considering that Nick Bosa and his agent have made similar decisions and neither Jones nor the Chiefs have leaked offer terms, it is best to see how both situations play out compared to the other before judging or getting emotional about it.

It is naive to think that not extending Chris Jones is the play here. At some point, Chiefs defensive players need to see one of their own treated like a star..

Spotrac estimates a 16 million increase in salary cap per year for the next several years.

I don't think it would look good for Chiefs if Nick Bosa gets extended as highest paid defender in the league and Chiefs do not bump their last offer to something they expect Chris Jones will accept.

Highest paid DE is TJ Watt at $28M a year. Trade Jones for Bosa and give him the money that we supposedly offered CJ and move on. (Edit: Website I looked at originally had old numbers)

[Balto]

Originally Posted by jettio

Talking about reality. Chiefs won the Super Bowl and Chris Jones was DPOY finalist.

You think Nick Bosa becoming no.1 or no. 2 highest paid defender in the league by the 49ers, is going to have no effect on how Chiefs players view their job if Chiefs best offer to Jones is not as good as TJ Watt got last year?

The mother****ers on chiefs planet that do not like to see athletes get paid are not exactly like the players in the Chiefs locker room.

Your comparing different positions here. Bosa becoming the highest paid edge rusher over TJ Watt would mean just making $29M! Jones to do the same at DT would be signing for $24.5M.

It's like saying Justin Jefferson was a finalist with Mahomes for OPOY so he should get paid $50M a year.

[Mecca]

Nick Bosa is significantly younger than Jones.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Balto

Hey Michael Katz thanks for posting! Could you tell Jones to fire you and come back with a contract in his hand that makes him the highest paid DT at $24.5M please.

Nah, Mr. Katz is going to tell Jones that Joey Bosa and Nick Bosa and TJ Watt have missed more games in the last 2 seasons than Jones has missed his whole career, why are they getting more than Jones when Chiefs do not have to pay an elite edge rusher on a second contract?