The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[ntexascardfan]

Jones is going to cost himself 8 figures. What a moron.

[O.city]

Yeah, you play it this way and end up losing 10 million plus. Then you give the Chiefs more leverage to keep you the next two years for cheaper.

It's .....the opposite of what you should do right?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I believe it is more likely than not he reports today. Just based on rational thinking and HIS own well being. He gains nothing by sitting out. Its quite puzzling that he thinks this would help.

I hear ya, but this is not about rational thinking. He's not showing up today.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Obviously, they are both complicit in failing to understand leverage. When they do the long math at the end of CJ's career, the chosen tact will surely yield the worst possible outcome. He's lost $2mm in fines, surely he lose endorsement opportunities, and it is likely that his quality of play in a contract year will wane, as is typically the case for players missing the entire pre-season. I think they misjudged the the age aspect and the fact he is STILL UNDER CONTRACT! Imho, he could have extended for 3 yrs at about 26-27/yr, won another SB, possibly gotten a gold jacket, and have been set for life in the NFL industry...that has all been possibly jeopardized by this foolish gambit.

Now in fairness - little of this will matter if he DOES come back in week 8 and dominates on his way to the SB. All will be forgiven at a point.

But then he'll just get tagged and we'll go through this lunacy again.

He can save himself a TON of heartache by reporting today, swallowing some pride (y'know, only making $20 million this season...**** that makes my head hurt) and balling out.

At worst he'll get the 'thanks for the memories' send-off that Hill got before he started running his mouth to 'build a brand' in Miami. There's still a relatively happy ending to be had here for Chris Jones.

But man, he's gotta un-**** himself. This is just dumb.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Now in fairness - little of this will matter if he DOES come back in week 8 and dominates on his way to the SB. All will be forgiven at a point.

But then he'll just get tagged and we'll go through this lunacy again.

He can save himself a TON of heartache by reporting today, swallowing some pride (y'know, only making $20 million this season...**** that makes my head hurt) and balling out.

At worst he'll get the 'thanks for the memories' send-off that Hill got before he started running his mouth to 'build a brand' in Miami. There's still a relatively happy ending to be had here for Chris Jones.

But man, he's gotta un-**** himself. This is just dumb.

Does it get to the point where the Chiefs just go full OBJ and decline to even tag him next year? Or does he just bring too much value to do that?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Does it get to the point where the Chiefs just go full OBJ and decline to even tag him next year? Or does he just bring too much value to do that?

Very possibly.

Depends on the FA market. They didn't tag OBJ because they wanted the flexibility to go into the market and snag Taylor and Omenihu. I mean for the tag price, they got Taylor, Omenihu, Tranquill AND Edwards. It's possible that none of those guys wait around for KC to finalize a trade if they don't enter the market with available cap space.

So yeah - it could work out that way.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Now in fairness - little of this will matter if he DOES come back in week 8 and dominates on his way to the SB. All will be forgiven at a point.

But then he'll just get tagged and we'll go through this lunacy again.

He can save himself a TON of heartache by reporting today, swallowing some pride (y'know, only making $20 million this season...**** that makes my head hurt) and balling out.

At worst he'll get the 'thanks for the memories' send-off that Hill got before he started running his mouth to 'build a brand' in Miami. There's still a relatively happy ending to be had here for Chris Jones.

But man, he's gotta un-**** himself. This is just dumb.

That is among his best scenarios, but he still loses 8 game checks and $2mm for missed training camp. THEN, he is a near 31 yr old trying to negotiate that last big contract. Lost leverage. It's possible he balls out and would be fresher, but that magic is hard to recapture, especially if they are 5-3!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Very possibly.

Depends on the FA market. They didn't tag OBJ because they wanted the flexibility to go into the market and snag Taylor and Omenihu. I mean for the tag price, they got Taylor, Omenihu, Tranquill AND Edwards. It's possible that none of those guys wait around for KC to finalize a trade if they don't enter the market with available cap space.

So yeah - it could work out that way.

Yeah. Kinda my thoughts too.

It's why there's no way I'd try to let KC off the 33.5 million dollar tag hook. There's your leverage to hit FA unencumbered. Just makes no sense to me.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, you play it this way and end up losing 10 million plus. Then you give the Chiefs more leverage to keep you the next two years for cheaper.

It's .....the opposite of what you should do right?

Thats why I think its all a charade. They know the Chiefs are in cap hell and thats their only leverage in hopes the Chiefs up their offer at the last minute. So if the Chiefs dont do so by the end of the day today Jones has to sign. If he does that then its hard to say it was a bad decision to not report. The idea to skip all of training camp to lose 2.2M to gain something like 4 to 6M in a contract extension makes sense but if it isnt there by 4pm it isnt there and you sign the extension and show up to play accordingly

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Thats why I think its all a charade. They know the Chiefs are in cap hell and thats their only leverage in hopes the Chiefs up their offer at the last minute. So if the Chiefs dont do so by the end of the day today Jones has to sign. If he does that then its hard to say it was a bad decision to not report. The idea to skip all of training camp to lose 2.2M to gain something like 4 to 6M in a contract extension makes sense but if it isnt there by 4pm it isnt there and you sign the extension and show up to play accordingly

There's no hope for a contract extension at this point. I'd say that ship sailed a while ago.

[Rainbarrel]

Lions winning week 1 would be an NFL buzz dream come true

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Very possibly.

Depends on the FA market. They didn't tag OBJ because they wanted the flexibility to go into the market and snag Taylor and Omenihu. I mean for the tag price, they got Taylor, Omenihu, Tranquill AND Edwards. It's possible that none of those guys wait around for KC to finalize a trade if they don't enter the market with available cap space.

So yeah - it could work out that way.

If he sits out til week 8, doesn’t hit tag amount go down significantly? Might be able to do both.

Man he’s such an idiot if he continues to die on this hill.

[TwistedChief]

This ESPN.com headline just totally mind****ed me.... had to read it over a couple times as I saw 'trade' and 'Jones' and 'star':

Panthers cut Jones, trade for K.C. preseason star

[Titty Meat]

Yall think he's gone after this year?

[KCUnited]

Just as Chris was getting over the Chiefs letting Frank Clark walk they go and trade Omar Smith-Marquette