Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 158

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

**jjchieffan** · 08-23-2023, 08:08 PM

Dallas Cowboys
Dallas, who ranked third in sacks and eighth in passing defense last season, drafted defensive tackle Mazi Smith with the No. 26 overall pick this year. Smith is a big man capable of plugging up the middle. Jones is a different type of player, and a Cowboys team still seeking to recapture its glory is always a threat to make a splash move.

In recent years, that has been with big-name players leaving the organization more often than joining it. But the Cowboys are one of the few remaining proven playoff teams with cap space left.

They are one of few teams that would not need to send another player out to remain under the salary cap if they acquired Jones.

**jjchieffan** · 08-23-2023, 08:09 PM

Chicago Bears

This one would not be based on need – the Bears added three rookies in the 2023 draft to a pair of veterans on the interior of their defensive line this offseason. But none of their players are on the same level as Jones, and the Bears had the worst defense in the league last season.

They ranked 31st against the run and recorded the fewest sacks with just 20, or 4.5 more than Jones had on his own.

Much of their lack of pressure came from an absence of a legitimate pass-rushing threat which they added in Yannick Ngakoue. Still, the Bears have the ninth-most cap space even after a spending spree this offseason, and their general manager, Ryan Poles, came up in the Chiefs organization.

**jjchieffan** · 08-23-2023, 08:10 PM

Green Bay Packers

This is a similar situation to the Bears. But Packer general manager Brian Gutekunst has preferred to move on from talent rather than expend draft capital to acquire some during his tenure. The Packers traded Davante Adams in March of 2022 and have been preparing to be without Rodgers since the 2020 offseason when they drafted Jordan Love in the first round.

The Packers had the fifth-fewest sacks and fielded the seventh-worth run defense.

Adding Jones alongside Kenny Clark may seem like overkill. But it would make things a lot easier for Love and the offense to have a defense that will wreak havoc on opposing offensive lines.

Green Bay has the 12th-most cap space remaining and would have to send a player or several out the door to remain under the cap but the payoff could be huge.

Dante84 · 08-23-2023, 08:13 PM

Remember before Mahomes how something like this would have ruined our year and we’d have to be depressed for the next 12 months because we knew that the entire season was a waste of ****ing time?

I do.

God I love Mahomes.

Dante84 · 08-23-2023, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Remember before Mahomes how something like this would have ruined our year and we’d have to be depressed for the next 12 months because we knew that the entire season was a waste of ****ing time?

I do.

God I love Mahomes.

Berry’s heel and being day to day.
Not paying Houston.
Tony G’s trade.
Jared Allen.
Jamaal’s injuries.
Bowe being fat.
Glenn Dorsey / Tyson Jackson / Ryan Simms
Neil Smith leaving.
DT’s accident.
Jon Baldwin midnight jogging video.
A year with no WR TD’s.

Jones might hold out? Damn that sucks. Oh well, Mahomes.

Wallcrawler · 08-23-2023, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Of course they are. Chris Jones was a top-3 defensive player in the league last year. He made everyone else on that DL better than they’d almost certainly be in isolation. He absolutely was crucial in a number of games and a number of situations for us.

To say no one guy is worth that much to a team? Of course they can be. We won a SB by the slimmest of margins. We got the 1 seed via the slimmest of margins. He anchored our defense.

I’m not saying there’s no world where we win a SB without Chris Jones this year, but our odds go down meaningfully. We weren’t that far ahead of the pack that we can afford to lose our best defensive player without the ability to suitably replace him and expect to be the same.

TLO · 08-23-2023, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Berry’s heel and being day to day.
Not paying Houston.
Tony G’s trade.
Jared Allen.
Jamaal’s injuries.
Bowe being fat.
Glenn Dorsey / Tyson Jackson / Ryan Simms
Neil Smith leaving.
DT’s accident.
Jon Baldwin midnight jogging video.
A year with no WR TD’s.

Jones might hold out? Damn that sucks. Oh well, Mahomes.

I need some context on the bolded part.

Rasputin · 08-23-2023, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Berry’s heel and being day to day.
Not paying Houston.
Tony G’s trade.
Jared Allen.
Jamaal’s injuries.
Bowe being fat.
Glenn Dorsey / Tyson Jackson / Ryan Simms
Neil Smith leaving.
DT’s accident.
Jon Baldwin midnight jogging video.
A year with no WR TD’s.

Jones might hold out? Damn that sucks. Oh well, Mahomes.

Percy Snow moped accident

**jjchieffan** · 08-23-2023, 08:32 PM

I wish that the Chiefs would do something to shore up the interior of the line now that it appears that Jones will carry his holdout into the season. Like maybe signing Suh. That would help a lot. I know that the cap is tight, but there are restructures available. About $5M could be freed up by converting Justin Reids salary to signing bonus. And the bank of Mahomes is also an option. They did it once this year for about $10M. But there's still another $20M available if they want it. Plus, every week that Jones sits out will free up $1.1M. That money can help sign someone later or carry over to next year.

Chiefspants · 08-23-2023, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Berry’s heel and being day to day.
Not paying Houston.
Tony G’s trade.
Jared Allen.
Jamaal’s injuries.
Bowe being fat.
Glenn Dorsey / Tyson Jackson / Ryan Simms
Neil Smith leaving.
DT’s accident.
Jon Baldwin midnight jogging video.
A year with no WR TD’s.

Jones might hold out? Damn that sucks. Oh well, Mahomes.

I never felt the surprise and elation I felt when the Alex Smith Chiefs came out and CRUSHED the Pats in Foxboro to start the season....

...And it all turned to dust the moment Berry's achilles snapped. The D never recovered that year.

O.city · 08-23-2023, 08:38 PM

The bank of Mahomes is only open before a certain date. They can’t do anything with it now

Dante84 · 08-23-2023, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO

I need some context on the bolded part.

Enjoy!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=260640

Wallcrawler · 08-23-2023, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

Damn, you just really are a stupid mother****er.

Not anywhere near as stupid as you, dilphag9.

You, who pounded the table for OBJ's "elite" services saying he was deserving the huge contract he wanted.

You, who pounded the table for making Chris Jones the highest paid defensive player in football.

You, who still faps to this turd even after he's shown that he AND his agent are either functioning in an ongoing diabetic coma, or are clinically ****ing braindead.

This moron is actually saying he can afford to sit until week 8, losing money he cannot possibly recoup, giving his teammates the finger, and doing his best Honey Vadger impersonation on Twitter.

Jones is a regular season hero that only twice has reached double digit sacks, and went nearly a season worth of playoff games before beating some scrubs for a couple sacks to get the monkey off his back.

Jones is wanting to be paid for what he has done. Unfortunately, that's not how this works. You're paid based on what you're expected to do. 30million a year, that's double digit sacks every year and destroying quarterbacks in postseason.

On top of it, the guy is threatening to not honor the deal he signed, a deal that Mahomes took less money for him to get in the first place, so **** Chris Jones, and his rabid spankbank groupies just like you.

He will end up looking worse than Tryeek Hill, worse than OBJ, and it's gonna be ****ing hilarious if he follows through on this dumbass holdout to week 8 threat.

Jones better hire a thug with a pipe to shatter Mahomes' knee, because an injury to Mahomes is the only shot in hell he has of not being proven a window licking reerun sitting out until week 8.

Send this ****face to the Raiders so we can beat his ass twice a year and he can finish his career with multiple straight losing seasons.

ghak99 · 08-23-2023, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

Berry’s heel and being day to day.
Not paying Houston.
Tony G’s trade.
Jared Allen.
Jamaal’s injuries.
Bowe being fat.
Glenn Dorsey / Tyson Jackson / Ryan Simms
Neil Smith leaving.
DT’s accident.
Jon Baldwin midnight jogging video.
A year with no WR TD’s.

Jones might hold out? Damn that sucks. Oh well, Mahomes.

Suicide in the parking lot.

**ptlyon** · 08-23-2023, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

Percy Snow moped accident

Jesse Haynes!

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jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $122248	Dallas Cowboys Dallas, who ranked third in sacks and eighth in passing defense last season, drafted defensive tackle Mazi Smith with the No. 26 overall pick this year. Smith is a big man capable of plugging up the middle. Jones is a different type of player, and a Cowboys team still seeking to recapture its glory is always a threat to make a splash move. In recent years, that has been with big-name players leaving the organization more often than joining it. But the Cowboys are one of the few remaining proven playoff teams with cap space left. They are one of few teams that would not need to send another player out to remain under the salary cap if they acquired Jones. __________________ Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
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08-23-2023, 08:09 PM	#2357
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $122248	Chicago Bears This one would not be based on need – the Bears added three rookies in the 2023 draft to a pair of veterans on the interior of their defensive line this offseason. But none of their players are on the same level as Jones, and the Bears had the worst defense in the league last season. They ranked 31st against the run and recorded the fewest sacks with just 20, or 4.5 more than Jones had on his own. Much of their lack of pressure came from an absence of a legitimate pass-rushing threat which they added in Yannick Ngakoue. Still, the Bears have the ninth-most cap space even after a spending spree this offseason, and their general manager, Ryan Poles, came up in the Chiefs organization. __________________ Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
Posts: 13,316

08-23-2023, 08:10 PM	#2358
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $122248	Green Bay Packers This is a similar situation to the Bears. But Packer general manager Brian Gutekunst has preferred to move on from talent rather than expend draft capital to acquire some during his tenure. The Packers traded Davante Adams in March of 2022 and have been preparing to be without Rodgers since the 2020 offseason when they drafted Jordan Love in the first round. The Packers had the fifth-fewest sacks and fielded the seventh-worth run defense. Adding Jones alongside Kenny Clark may seem like overkill. But it would make things a lot easier for Love and the offense to have a defense that will wreak havoc on opposing offensive lines. Green Bay has the 12th-most cap space remaining and would have to send a player or several out the door to remain under the cap but the payoff could be huge. __________________ Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
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08-23-2023, 08:32 PM	#2364
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $122248	I wish that the Chiefs would do something to shore up the interior of the line now that it appears that Jones will carry his holdout into the season. Like maybe signing Suh. That would help a lot. I know that the cap is tight, but there are restructures available. About $5M could be freed up by converting Justin Reids salary to signing bonus. And the bank of Mahomes is also an option. They did it once this year for about $10M. But there's still another $20M available if they want it. Plus, every week that Jones sits out will free up $1.1M. That money can help sign someone later or carry over to next year. __________________ Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
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