Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 146

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

InChiefsHeaven · 08-23-2023, 10:10 AM

If losing Chris Jones means we can't win the SB this year, then we have a lot bigger problems than Chris Jones. Look I get it, it would suck if he's not here, but I'm really coming around to the idea of perspective. No one guy (save Mahomes) is worth that much to a team all by himself. If Jones were out on injury, I'd still believe we could win without him. It can't be all about one guy on the interior of the defensive line being the lynch pin to a successful season.

Perspective man. I hope he comes back, but I'm not gonna say it's all over without him. By a long shot.

**ptlyon** · 08-23-2023, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

That's called, "we better be putting up 30+ points per game"

I like to think of it this way. What if:

A) He wasn't on the roster at all
B) He did go to training camp, and he either a) got injured until week 8, or b) did this

In either scenario, he's just not there. Like Reid says, the game goes on, and you just have to adjust. Just the way it is. Next man up, go with what you got.

**ptlyon** · 08-23-2023, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven

If losing Chris Jones means we can't win the SB this year, then we have a lot bigger problems than Chris Jones. Look I get it, it would suck if he's not here, but I'm really coming around to the idea of perspective. No one guy (save Mahomes) is worth that much to a team all by himself. If Jones were out on injury, I'd still believe we could win without him. It can't be all about one guy on the interior of the defensive line being the lynch pin to a successful season.

Perspective man. I hope he comes back, but I'm not gonna say it's all over without him. By a long shot.

You're God damn right gif

tredadda · 08-23-2023, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there

Yes. I would love for KC to keep him but:

1. He appears to want more than KC should give him, especially considering the likelihood of his performance dropping during a portion of that contract.

2. The C and G are both ascending and form 2/3rds of the core of one of the best interior lines in the NFL. You probably get both of them for what Jones costs you.

I am all for paying elite pass rushers, but Veach can't just give in to the demands of Jones if he is truly being unreasonable.

DJ's left nut · 08-23-2023, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

How did we get to this point

I'm standing by 'bad agent'.

He has a relatively unknown agent who's trying to use Jones to prove his value to other potential clients. And in Jones he has a willing participant.

Y'all ever watch Ballers? This is Reggie getting Vernon's ear and talking him out of signing that extension because "We have our number and that's not enough for our plans..."

tredadda · 08-23-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ghak99

Pat's career could be ended with a single injury.

Having a good OL should be a high priority. Even higher as Mahomes ages.

Buffalo and Cincy both have elite QBs and I bet they would kill for our line right now.

Woogieman · 08-23-2023, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven

If losing Chris Jones means we can't win the SB this year, then we have a lot bigger problems than Chris Jones. Look I get it, it would suck if he's not here, but I'm really coming around to the idea of perspective. No one guy (save Mahomes) is worth that much to a team all by himself. If Jones were out on injury, I'd still believe we could win without him. It can't be all about one guy on the interior of the defensive line being the lynch pin to a successful season.

Perspective man. I hope he comes back, but I'm not gonna say it's all over without him. By a long shot.

Even the biggest Veach detractors surely would admit by now that given $30mm in cap space to work with, and/or additional picks that he will be able to acquire young and ready talent to stay on top. If CJ's absence causes them a SB appearance in 2024, I am confident they will be in 3 of the next 5 anyway because of the Reid/Mahomes/Veach talents

tredadda · 08-23-2023, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think the team must be thinking so.

Or they are waiting on camp cuts to see if they can snag someone. If not, Dunlap should still be there.

FlaChief58 · 08-23-2023, 10:21 AM

Sounds like the Chiefs are preparing for life after Jones

**TribalElder** · 08-23-2023, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58

Sounds like the Chiefs are preparing for life after Jones

came here to post that same thing

It's over

CJ ****ed this up so bad I feel awful for him

O.city · 08-23-2023, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Jones not being on the roster makes it tougher for certain and I WANT him back at a reasonable cost, but let me ask you this.

Who are the top 5 defenses in football and how many have a truly top 5 interior defensive lineman? The answer is one of them.

SF
Dallas
Philly
Jets - *Quinton Williams
Broncos/Buffalo ?

The arguably worst defense in the NFL heading into this season, the Rams have Aaron Donald and well not much else.

I think our defense is better than advertised even without Jones as long as they stay healthy. I just think we have to figure out a way to get some good pass rush with our DE's which I believe is why we drafted DE the last 2 years.

All those defenses have elite players in the front 7.

**ptlyon** · 08-23-2023, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

CJ ****ed this up so bad I feel awful for him

WTF gif

O.city · 08-23-2023, 10:28 AM

They can have a successful season without jones.

They’d have what DJ calls a punchers chance to make some playoff noise but losing your best defender in this situation…..yeah they ain’t what they were

Urc Burry · 08-23-2023, 10:28 AM

Andy doesn’t get too fired up often. But if there is one thing that pisses him off, it is hold outs. Even for a day in TC

It’s pretty clear they are extremely far off, and Veach isn’t going to budge. It’s pretty clear the philosophy going forward is that as long as Mahomes is upright we have a chance. And we are going to invest heavily in the offensive line. Which is going to leave less money to make us a more complete team.

O.city · 08-23-2023, 10:28 AM

The shit thing is that they traded Tyreek to do this and now this happens.

Traded the wrong guy

View Poll Results: How will the Chris Jones deal play out?
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InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $805437	If losing Chris Jones means we can't win the SB this year, then we have a lot bigger problems than Chris Jones. Look I get it, it would suck if he's not here, but I'm really coming around to the idea of perspective. No one guy (save Mahomes) is worth that much to a team all by himself. If Jones were out on injury, I'd still believe we could win without him. It can't be all about one guy on the interior of the defensive line being the lynch pin to a successful season. Perspective man. I hope he comes back, but I'm not gonna say it's all over without him. By a long shot. __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-505936	They can have a successful season without jones. They’d have what DJ calls a punchers chance to make some playoff noise but losing your best defender in this situation…..yeah they ain’t what they were
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Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $8631048	Andy doesn’t get too fired up often. But if there is one thing that pisses him off, it is hold outs. Even for a day in TC It’s pretty clear they are extremely far off, and Veach isn’t going to budge. It’s pretty clear the philosophy going forward is that as long as Mahomes is upright we have a chance. And we are going to invest heavily in the offensive line. Which is going to leave less money to make us a more complete team.
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