Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 145

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

Mr. Wizard · 08-23-2023, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Every game he misses KC saves around $1.2MM in cap space I believe.

My point is we can’t replace him while he is holding out. We get 1.1 million per game but can’t use it to bring in a free agent while he is sitting out. He’s screwing us and sitting on his ass laughing his head off.

Beach better trade his ass or restructure somebody’s contract to free up some cap space so he can bring Carlos and another FA or we are good and proper ****ed.

-King- · 08-23-2023, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

No, I know his age….I was talking about in the future, JFC….

Maybe he’s still elite by the end of this year but I know what the past says and it says that DTs start to trend down pretty significantly in the NFL after age 30…

Sorry I don’t want an albatross of a contract for maybe 1, 2 years of elite play if we’re lucky…

Then we should have traded him in the off-season regardless of his demands? Even if he was asking for 20mil, if DTs fall off after 30, why is this even a conversation?

Jerm · 08-23-2023, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's the part that might just irritate me the most of all.

Don't you think there's a decent chance that Jones is using Omenihu's suspension as a pressure point?

"Hey, the team might be in a bind here. I could A) Step up and help us through it or B) Use it to add a few more bucks to my deal and potentially mess up a season where I'm being paid $20 million.

B sounds aces to me!"

The thing that irritates me the most and grows by the day is the fact we traded an elite offensive weapon last year to basically facilitate this deal and now we may not be with either for much longer…

Sassy Squatch · 08-23-2023, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

That’s what’s gotten me to the point of being over him and his contract demands. I was all for paying him to be the second highest paid DT in the league. But now you’re not going to show up for 8 games even though you’re under contract and being paid pretty damn well? **** off, Chris.

Yeah, it's a really bizarre move. You're making it quite a bit easier for the team to justify going nuclear if it comes down to it, and those options won't be fun for old CJ.

**ptlyon** · 08-23-2023, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

That’s what’s gotten me to the point of being over him and his contract demands. I was all for paying him to be the second highest paid DT in the league. But now you’re not going to show up for 8 games even though you’re under contract and being paid pretty damn well? **** off, Chris.

This is why you picked the correct moniker

-King- · 08-23-2023, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Andy Reid gives an update on the status of Chris Jones 😳

(via @ByNateTaylor) pic.twitter.com/6gwqchxw8I
— KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) August 23, 2023

How did we get to this point

Marcellus · 08-23-2023, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I’m going with B/ because I think each year you have Mahomes and an aging Kelce playing at this level you err on that side of things.

I don’t think we’re winning a Super Bowl without Chris Jones on the team this season. In the future? Certainly possible Because Mahomes. But it would be a huge gap to fill this year and we don’t have the wide margin of error many here seem to feel we do.

Jones not being on the roster makes it tougher for certain and I WANT him back at a reasonable cost, but let me ask you this.

Who are the top 5 defenses in football and how many have a truly top 5 interior defensive lineman? The answer is one of them.

SF
Dallas
Philly
Jets - *Quinton Williams
Broncos/Buffalo ?

The arguably worst defense in the NFL heading into this season, the Rams have Aaron Donald and well not much else.

I think our defense is better than advertised even without Jones as long as they stay healthy. I just think we have to figure out a way to get some good pass rush with our DE's which I believe is why we drafted DE the last 2 years.

**ChiTown** · 08-23-2023, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Obviously not. But that's what it's looking like.

That's called, "we better be putting up 30+ points per game"

**The Franchise** · 08-23-2023, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

Yeah, it's a really bizarre move. You're making it quite a bit easier for the team to justify going nuclear if it comes down to it, and those options won't be fun for old CJ.

He could have made everyone switch to his side if he just skipped training camp, played out the year and then did this holdout shit next year if they put the tag on him. He’s going the Bell route after saying he won’t play for another team. Just makes him look like an asshole.

Jerm · 08-23-2023, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Then we should have traded him in the off-season regardless of his demands? Even if he was asking for 20mil, if DTs fall off after 30, why is this even a conversation?

I was all for trading him after the season…once you’ve done it with Hill and show the propensity to trade a guy like that, anyone not named Mahomes could go.

Veach mishandled it IMO and then Jones and his agents completely changed their tune…

DJ's left nut · 08-23-2023, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

The thing that irritates me the most and grows by the day is the fact we traded an elite offensive weapon last year to basically facilitate this deal and now we may not be with either for much longer…

Nah, i don't think so.

The Jones analysis is independent of the Hill analysis. Fans lumped them together but I think it's clear the organization never has.

They moved Hill because he wanted more than they wanted to pay because they felt they could build a dynamic offense without him. They were proven correct. They didn't move Hill because they wanted to save that money to sign Jones.

They moved Hill because they didn't think he was necessary and the ROI wasn't there.

ToxSocks · 08-23-2023, 10:06 AM

So Jones must be asking for something north of 30M.

Welp, gonna have to score a lot of points this season.

Sassy Squatch · 08-23-2023, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Then we should have traded him in the off-season regardless of his demands? Even if he was asking for 20mil, if DTs fall off after 30, why is this even a conversation?

It's not like they drop off a cliff. Letting Jones play out the final year of his deal while he's still capable of relatively elite play and recouping some draft assets afterwards sounds better to me than resetting the market for 3 or 4 years and having to pay it well into his 30s when the decline is starting to get more noticeable.

tredadda · 08-23-2023, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers

Leave a team, a legacy like this for an extra couple million?

Thats some extremely shortsighted idiocy, if he were to retire with the Chiefs he'd have the keys to the city for life, he could basically write his own ticket and recoup way more than a couple million... business ventures, speaking gigs etc

What legacy though? He's still about 30ish sacks from making the HOF. He has two rings already. He should seek the max he can on his potentially final big contract.

KCrockaholic · 08-23-2023, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

It's not like they drop off a cliff. Letting Jones play out the final year of his deal while he's still capable of relatively elite play and recouping some draft assets afterwards sounds better to me than resetting the market for 3 or 4 years and having to pay it well into his 30s when the decline is starting to get more noticeable.

This is the way. Been saying this the last few weeks to people. It becomes a win-win for the team to do it this way.

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07-22-2023, 06:08 PM
TribalElder Arrowhead Trail of Tears Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: KansasCity Casino cash: $-449559	The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming) Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing? Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect? I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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