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View Poll Results: How will the Chris Jones deal play out?
Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:27 AM   #2116
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Or maybe Veach knows what he's doing and is planning to force Jones to play out the final year of his deal regardless of how butthurt that makes him and move on in 2024.
Veach is taking into account the guys we gotta pay coming up soon. If Chris gets his then that means somebody else that’s elite and younger (Creed, Trey) might have to walk. At this rate I’m all about turning Jones into draft picks.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:29 AM   #2117
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Tag him. Shop him at the combine and get a trade done before FA starts in March.

If I'm Veach I'm calling Monti Ossenfort in Arizona. The Cardinals are going to be god awful this year. The odds they get a top 5 pick are over 90%. The odds they get the first or second overall pick are at least 70%.

The Cardinals have 2 first rd picks, a second and 2 third rd picks as it stands. The likelihood that they get a top 2 draft pick is very high IMO. That means they can rid themselves of Kyler Murray and draft Caleb Williams or Drake Maye.

I'd ask for their 2nd rd pick and a 4th. That seems pretty fair for a 30 year old DL. And keep in mind that their 2nd rd pick is gonna be one of the first of the 2nd rd.

They won't mind bc some shithole team will give them a pick somewhere for Kyler based simply off his potential. They're already loaded there as well.

It makes a lot of sense bc Gannon is a defensive coach and is gonna want to build up that defense with a guy like Chris.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:29 AM   #2118
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What's more valuable?

A. A haul of draft picks in 2023.

B. A slightly lesser haul of draft picks in 2024 and one last year of elite DT play?
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:30 AM   #2119
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Leave a team, a legacy like this for an extra couple million?

Thats some extremely shortsighted idiocy, if he were to retire with the Chiefs he'd have the keys to the city for life, he could basically write his own ticket and recoup way more than a couple million... business ventures, speaking gigs etc
You're speaking as a fan. A few million a year over a few years is a lot of ****ing money. And he is an elite player with all pros, near hall of fame and 2 superbowl rings, his legacy is just fine lol.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:33 AM   #2120
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:34 AM   #2121
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You're speaking as a fan.
That's like 95% of the posts in this thread.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:34 AM   #2122
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What's more valuable?

A. A haul of draft picks in 2023.

B. A slightly lesser haul of draft picks in 2024 and one last year of elite DT play?
You’d also get 20 million dollar of cap space
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:35 AM   #2123
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Then we should have traded him while we could maximize his value. If he wasn't willing to step up to the table in the first place, this whole thing should have been over in March or April.
Hindsight is always 20/20.

There are a lot of outcomes and reasons to have not traded him. What the BEST path would have been is something that won't really shake out until a few years down the road.
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So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there
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Hindsight is always 20/20.

There are a lot of outcomes and reasons to have not traded him. What the BEST path would have been is something that won't really shake out until a few years down the road.
Well…..don’t wait til the last minute?

Here’s what we’re prepared to offer. If that doesn’t work let’s start calling to see who will offer what
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:37 AM   #2126
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According to "overthecap" we currently have Team Cap Space: $748,038.
Chris holding out keeps us from changing that number. Essentially we don't have the money to bring in free agent DLs. He kind of has us over a barrel;

- He wont play
- We cant replace him in free agency

What am I missing here?
If necessary they could talk to the Bank of Mahomes, move some of this year's salary off the books and then recapture it next season when we get the cap credits for the salary Jones lost due to the holdout.

That's not real tough to manage.

What's tough is finding guys worth signing at this point in the season.
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So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there
If the ages were similar in all the positions mentioned, I’d tend to agree…
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So we’re ok letting an elite pass rusher go to sign a center and a guard

I’m not really sure the value checks there
Yep. And let's be honest, the way we're going, we're going to have these same discussions with them.

HOW DARE CREED TRY TO BE THE HIGHEST PAID CENTER IN THE GAME!! DOES HE NOT CARE ABOUT HIS LEGACY?
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If the ages were similar in all the positions mentioned, I’d tend to agree…
An elite 29 yr old DT is more valuable than an elite guard and center at any age.
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