The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Oh yea because it's a bullshit threat.

Probably more likely a troll than a threat.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

If he holds out until midseason like he's threatening to wouldn't surprise me if the owners included a provision that those lost wages are factored into the tag number. That would drop it significantly.

Omenihu's suspension games money rolls over to 2024 cap.

I would assume a player who never reported and missed games those game checks would rollover.

Not sure about fines. CBA requires team to deduct fines from pay to play so maybe fines rollover to 2024 cap.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Probably more likely a troll than a threat.

Probably...

I don't think some people have come to the realization, Chris Jones has 2 rings, he gives no shits about winning or the SB, he cares about money period.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

He'll get 24/25 mil a year if he doesn't show up this season from someone next year, even with a down ish year.

I'm not sure what the fine situation is on regular season games, but if he sits out 8 games and drops his base salary for the year down to $14 million, he's going to lose the benefit of his massive cap number next year.

AND he's going to simply be out $10+ million for the games he's missed and probably $2-3 million more on fines.

With less leverage to boot.

How does ANY of this help him in a cash drive? He starts probably $20 million underwater by taking this approach.

I've gotta believe it's a bluff, still. This just doesn't make any sense.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm not sure what the fine situation is on regular season games, but if he sits out 8 games and drops his base salary for the year down to $14 million, he's going to lose the benefit of his massive cap number next year.

AND he's going to simply be out $10+ million for the games he's missed and probably $2-3 million more on fines.

With less leverage to boot.

How does ANY of this help him in a cash drive? He starts probably $20 million underwater by taking this approach.

I've gotta believe it's a bluff, still. This just doesn't make any sense.

I don't believe he'll miss games.

I mean surely not.

[arrowheadnation]

Great...I jump on and see that Chris Jones is trending on twitter. I assume we have signed him. Nope, he says he has the money to hold out until week 8. In the words of Charlie Brown...*sigh.

[Mecca]

And after looking it up, if Jones misses games the Chiefs will receive salary cap relief for each of the games because he is not paid for them.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Probably...

I don't think some people have come to the realization, Chris Jones has 2 rings, he gives no shits about winning or the SB, he cares about money period.

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive by any means, especially for a DT.. it's not like he needs to be out there right now getting reps with new receivers or learning defensive schemes or anything. He just needs to eventually be in game shape and knows their floor the past several seasons has been the AFCCG.

He might be putting money first and health second right now, but I really wouldn't view him going through the motions at camp and playing a series in a preseason game as "this guy wants to win another SB!!!!" ...so, I also don’t see sitting out of doing those minimal things as giving no shits.

Of course, his motivation for the upcoming season really makes no difference, because the end result of another ring or a huge contract will require the same effort either way.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't believe he'll miss games.

I mean surely not.

I realise it's not remotely comparable but OBJ proved to me that bad advice and an over-estimation of value based on proximity to greatness (Reid and Mahomes) does silly things to some people.

[wazu]

It's seeming increasingly clear to me that Chris Jones has lost his ****ing mind.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Plus....**** I would like the Chiefs to just steamroll thru the season. I'm talking like scorched earth mother ****ers to the tune of 15-2 or something. We've had to sweat out the SB seasons and playoffs.

I wanted to see a walk thru. And I think with all hands on deck they could do it.

17-3 last year and the 3 losses were from a combined 10 points. That not good enough for ya?

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by wazu

It's seeming increasingly clear to me that Chris Jones has lost his ****ing mind.

He damn sure has lost his shit but camp is over and he is still not there so this report could be for real. I had a feeling his contract demands would be too much last March.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm not sure what the fine situation is on regular season games, but if he sits out 8 games and drops his base salary for the year down to $14 million, he's going to lose the benefit of his massive cap number next year.

AND he's going to simply be out $10+ million for the games he's missed and probably $2-3 million more on fines.

With less leverage to boot.

How does ANY of this help him in a cash drive? He starts probably $20 million underwater by taking this approach.

I've gotta believe it's a bluff, still. This just doesn't make any sense.

The only thing I could think of would be injury probability between now and week 8 that he would be taking off the table.

While I'm sure its a very low chance, if he came back now and tore his ACL or whatever between now and week 8 at age 30+ I'm not sure he even gets that $25M contract that should be what he is signing for now.

I'm also thinking that players before draft get insurance to cover injury and such so I'd think Jones could get something that could cover him for cheaper than a $10M premium? But maybe not haha

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive by any means, especially for a DT.. it's not like he needs to be out there right now getting reps with new receivers or learning defensive schemes or anything. He just needs to eventually be in game shape and knows their floor the past several seasons has been the AFCCG.

He might be putting money first and health second right now, but I really wouldn't view him going through the motions at camp and playing a series in a preseason game as "this guy wants to win another SB!!!!" ...so, I also don’t see sitting out of doing those minimal things as giving no shits.

Of course, his motivation for the upcoming season really makes no difference, because the end result of another ring or a huge contract will require the same effort either way.

Not quite that far but he is telling you he'd rather get paid than make sure the team stays competitive.

[TribalElder]

to take a 10 million dollar hit in fines to show up and put up a half seasons numbers

Chris is dumber than **** if this is the plan

I almost feel bad for the guy, his agents have totally ****ed this up. I don't see how he will ever make up that lost money.