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View Poll Results: How will the Chris Jones deal play out?
Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:11 AM   #1636
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Must be nice to be able to sign a contract and then out right not honor it fully because I don't feel like it.
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:22 AM   #1637
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Question I don’t think we have discussed:

How do the fines affect his cap number?

He missed 1/18th of his salary by missing preseason game 1… does his cap number now go down?

He’s racked up more than $1M in camp fines. Do those subtract from his base?
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:11 PM   #1638
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Teams don't honor contracts all the time...if a team can cut a guy 2 years into a 10 year deal to not pay him I don't fault a player for doing what they need to do to gain leverage.

Fans almost always side with teams because they are a fan of said team, if you were that player, you would do exactly the same thing.
Bullshit.

Teams honor the contract exactly as it's written. Being able to cut a player is right there in black and white for both parties to agree to. Situational settlements and penalties for either side not living up to their end of the deal is all in black and white.

If you want to blame players, teams, and the media for yapping their traps about the big inflated figures that only actually happen if the world spins perfectly for the whole deal, go ahead. Believing the hype doesn't mean the contract isn't being adhered to by both sides.
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:15 PM   #1639
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I hear the Chiefs and Chris Jones are still 14" away from a new contract.
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:17 PM   #1640
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Bullshit.

Teams honor the contract exactly as it's written. Being able to cut a player is right there in black and white for both parties to agree to. Situational settlements and penalties for either side not living up to their end of the deal is all in black and white.
Correct. The option to cut players is why the big signing bonuses exist in the first place.
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:22 PM   #1641
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Question I don’t think we have discussed:

How do the fines affect his cap number?

He missed 1/18th of his salary by missing preseason game 1… does his cap number now go down?

He’s racked up more than $1M in camp fines. Do those subtract from his base?
That would be a fun under the table loophole if there was a need... oh hey, we'll need you to hold out for a bit to clear some cap space, but we'll make it up to you in your next contract instead of restructuring under this cap.
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:24 PM   #1642
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I hear the Chiefs and Chris Jones are still 14" away from a new contract.
From league circles?
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:26 PM   #1643
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Correct. The option to cut players is why the big signing bonuses exist in the first place.
Yeah, everyone knows the rules and the economy adjusts accordingly. Max fines are agreed upon, guaranteed money is agreed upon, players obviously know what's not guaranteed... if teams really hated players holding out, they would lobby for heftier fines or guaranteed money would adjust, or whatever.

Nobody is screwing over anyone else with some crazy leverage or anything, and nobody is breaking any rules.
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:38 PM   #1644
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I hear the Chiefs and Chris Jones are still 14" away from a new contract.
So your saying he can sign the paperwork without using his hands?
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:46 PM   #1645
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Question I don’t think we have discussed:

How do the fines affect his cap number?

He missed 1/18th of his salary by missing preseason game 1… does his cap number now go down?

He’s racked up more than $1M in camp fines. Do those subtract from his base?
It's been asked a few times in this thread but no answers.

I'm hoping that it does in fact reduce the total cap hit that is used to calculate next years franchise tag. Thus Veach could reduce that tag number by a few million if a contract is not reached.

Veach a mastermind?
Knows he won't ever pay Jones $30M and plans to tag and trade him next offseason but only tells Jones/agent that they are working on it and a deal could still get done thus Jones keeps sitting out! At some point the agent and Jones will call Veach's bluff and Jones will report but by then his tag number will be in the $20M's not the $30M's anymore!

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Must be nice to be able to sign a contract and then out right not honor it fully because I don't feel like it.
Be the 2nd best person in the entire world that can do your job and you'll be able to do that.
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Old 08-16-2023, 01:41 PM   #1647
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Be the 2nd best person in the entire world that can do your job and you'll be able to do that.
Laveon Bell would disagree with you.

I mean I suppose you still can do it, but its not without consequence.
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Laveon Bell would disagree with you.

I mean I suppose you still can do it, but its not without consequence.
There's maybe a handful of DT's who can rush the passer at a high level like Chris.

There's tons of RB's across the league. We just had a 7th rd RB break out and think an undrafted RB this year could be really good.

Chris won't face that many consequences, but he's also gonna be on the field unlike Bell.
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Laveon Bell would disagree with you.

I mean I suppose you still can do it, but its not without consequence.
You think Chris Jones is going to skip out on this whole season? And you think a great pass rushing DT is anywhere similar to Leveon Bell?
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You think Chris Jones is going to skip out on this whole season? And you think a great pass rushing DT is anywhere similar to Leveon Bell?
No I don't think he will sit out but are you attempting to say Bell wasn't the top 1 or 2 RB when his contract deal went down?
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