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View Poll Results: How will the Chris Jones deal play out?
Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:05 AM   #1621
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This I agree with. I am also ok with Jones being fined for not being there in that respect. I understand the outs built into a contract, it's more the opinions in the court of public opinion that teams cuts a player=Ok. Player holds out for whatever reason=player bad, honor contract.
I think the nature of professional sports dictates that it's OK for a team to cut a player because you have to perform to be in the professional sport, and if you don't perform, you don't belong.

Fans understand this, especially because they want their teams to win, and they understand that you can't have poor performers on your team and win, or at least not win as much as they could.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:07 AM   #1622
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This I agree with. I am also ok with Jones being fined for not being there in that respect. I understand the outs built into a contract, it's more the opinions in the court of public opinion that teams cuts a player=Ok. Player holds out for whatever reason=player bad, honor contract.
I get it. But teams are never withholding guaranteed money. In fact that guaranteed money was put into escrow on day 1 when the contract was signed in the first place.

Football is such a tough sport to play precisely because of the wear and tear and way contracts are structured. I don’t begrudge anyone for seeking out as much money as they can get as these guys earn it.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:08 AM   #1623
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Must be nice to be able to sign a contract and then out right not honor it fully because I don't feel like it.
If you were as good at your job as he is, you could do it
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:10 AM   #1624
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Must be nice to be able to sign a contract and then out right not honor it fully because I don't feel like it.
It's generally the player's only leverage. It hurts the team, but it also hurts the player's pocketbook. I don't have an opinion on it, other than to say, it's just business.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:10 AM   #1625
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“He signed the contract he should show up and play”

“He should just sign for what the chiefs are offering and not try to maximize his money and contract”

That seems contradictory
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:10 AM   #1626
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Must be nice to be able to sign a contract and then out right not honor it fully because I don't feel like it.
Are you familiar with at-will employment? We all have the right to quit our current jobs. It just means we won’t be paid and there might be other limitations (non-competes, etc).
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:11 AM   #1627
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Must be nice to be able to sign a contract and then out right not honor it fully because I don't feel like it.
Must be nice to ignore an entire conversation so everyone can explain it just for you a 2nd time.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:12 AM   #1628
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Must be nice to be able to sign a contract and then out right not honor it fully because I don't feel like it.
Teams don't honor contracts all the time...if a team can cut a guy 2 years into a 10 year deal to not pay him I don't fault a player for doing what they need to do to gain leverage.

Fans almost always side with teams because they are a fan of said team, if you were that player, you would do exactly the same thing.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:13 AM   #1629
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Teams break contracts all the time. They should honor them if the player have to.
Well CJ doesn't have a ton of options here. He is under contract to make around $20MM minus the fines he keeps accumulating.

Sure he doesn't have to honor the contract I guess, he not get paid and not accrue service time while doing it.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:14 AM   #1630
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Well CJ doesn't have a ton of options here. He is under contract to make around $20MM minus the fines he keeps accumulating.

Sure he doesn't have to honor the contract I guess, he not get paid and not accrue service time while doing it.
If they are legit far apart it's more for next year, if the rest of the league knows he's disgruntled it makes a franchise tag harder.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:15 AM   #1631
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Teams don't honor contracts all the time...if a team can cut a guy 2 years into a 10 year deal to not pay him I don't fault a player for doing what they need to do to gain leverage.

Fans almost always side with teams because they are a fan of said team, if you were that player, you would do exactly the same thing.
Obviously this is a seriously hyperbolic example, but stop acting like there aren't repercussions to cutting players in the middle of contracts.

Its not a one way street, signing bonuses are still paid, cap hits, dead $ etc....its not like teams just do whatever they want without it making an impact.

Last I checked Jones was on track to make $80MM of an $80MM contract sorrect?
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:19 AM   #1632
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Obviously this is a seriously hyperbolic example, but stop acting like there aren't repercussions to cutting players in the middle of contracts.

Its not a one way street, signing bonuses are still paid, cap hits, dead $ etc....its not like teams just do whatever they want without it making an impact.

Last I checked Jones was on track to make $80MM of an $80MM contract sorrect?
Sure but it's a 2 way street, teams cut guys cause they don't wanna pay them all the time.
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Teams don't honor contracts all the time...if a team can cut a guy 2 years into a 10 year deal to not pay him I don't fault a player for doing what they need to do to gain leverage.

Fans almost always side with teams because they are a fan of said team, if you were that player, you would do exactly the same thing.
Yes they do, 100% of the time!

It's in the contract that they can be cut at anytime and the player is only guaranteed the guaranteed money.
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Sure but it's a 2 way street, teams cut guys cause they don't wanna pay them all the time.
Because it says exactly this IN THE CONTRACT.
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Teams break contracts all the time. They should honor them if the player have to.
Most of the time it’s either expected at the time of signing or the player isn’t living up to the contract he signed. I have no issues with either.

Rarely the player is cut that is living up to the contract strictly do to financial reasons. It happens and yes, it is kind of BS.
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