Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 72

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

AdolfOliverBush · 08-10-2023, 07:12 AM

Is it time to blow it up and have a rebuilding phase? What can we get in a trade for Mahomes?

Skyy God · 08-10-2023, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Is it time to blow it up and have a rebuilding phase? What can we get in a trade for Mahomes?

Repost from after the Hill trade??

lcarus · 08-10-2023, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Is it time to blow it up and have a rebuilding phase? What can we get in a trade for Mahomes?

Mahomes don't even know what rebuilding means

O.city · 08-10-2023, 07:45 AM

I think the Hill trade and success has warped some minds on the subject.

Losing elite players generally doesn't go well.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-10-2023, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think the Hill trade and success has warped some minds on the subject.

Losing elite players generally doesn't go well.

Correct, potentially losing a combination of Bolten, Creed, Smith, and Sneed do to overpaying Jones wouldn't go well for the long term outlook of this team. We have Jones rights for 2 more years worst case scenario. This year hard dollars at $20m(not cap) and next year at $33m for an average of approx. $26.5 for 2 years. Jones is absolutely insane not to sign at $27 per with guaranteed $ of $70m.

RunKC · 08-10-2023, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I remember when Mahomes signed his deal and we were all celebrating how it would allow us to re-sign most of our great players because it was so "flexible" and team friendly and structured in a way we could move money around to keep players/sign FAs. That really hasn't planned out.

How is this any different from the contracts all the other top QBs have signed? I don't get it to be honest.

Chris Jones got his mega contract 9 days after Mahomes got his back in 2020

MIAdragon · 08-10-2023, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think the Hill trade and success has warped some minds on the subject.

Losing elite players generally doesn't go well.

Overpaying players on the verge of the precipice is worse.

O.city · 08-10-2023, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Correct, potentially losing a combination of Bolten, Creed, Smith, and Sneed do to overpaying Jones wouldn't go well for the long term outlook of this team. We have Jones rights for 2 more years worst case scenario. This year hard dollars at $20m(not cap) and next year at $33m for an average of approx. $26.5 for 2 years. Jones is absolutely insane not to sign at $27 per with guaranteed $ of $70m.

Losing a slot CB, an offball LB, a C and a RG?

I mean, they're all really good players but come on.

O.city · 08-10-2023, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Overpaying players on the verge of the precipice is worse.

He's 29.

I feel like we're overplaying the age thing a bit.

I'm not against trading him, hell, I'd have done it before the draft if that's the route we're going. But he's a top 10 non QB player in the leauge, right in the middle of his prime. I don't think losing a guy like that is gonna be easy to replace.

O.city · 08-10-2023, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

You do realize Reid has made it crystal clear they were shocked Jones didn't show up for camp right? What does that tell you?

It sure doesn't sound like his agent let them know where this was headed.

So you don't think they knew the # back in March? That just came out of no where?

-King- · 08-10-2023, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Chris Jones got his mega contract 9 days after Mahomes got his back in 2020

Ok? So when Mahomes still had to play a year of his rookie deal?

What's the difference in position the chiefs are in now as opposed to other teams with top paid QBs?

AdolfOliverBush · 08-10-2023, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Losing a slot CB, an offball LB, a C and a RG?

I mean, they're all really good players but come on.

The most versatile defender on the roster, the Chiefs record holder for most tackles in a season, and 40% of the offensive line that protects the heart of the franchise, including the best C in the league? Jones isn't valuable enough to make up for losing those 4.

RunKC · 08-10-2023, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

He's 29.

I feel like we're overplaying the age thing a bit.

I'm not against trading him, hell, I'd have done it before the draft if that's the route we're going. But he's a top 10 non QB player in the leauge, right in the middle of his prime. I don't think losing a guy like that is gonna be easy to replace.

That's why they're keeping him this year. He's still very good. But once these bigger guys hit 30 you just never know. If you trade him next year 30 a team might be getting a year, maybe 2 (doubt it) of his prime.

He's at that point where he's at the top. Only where to go now is down

-King- · 08-10-2023, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That's why they're keeping him this year. He's still very good. But once these bigger guys hit 30 you just never know. If you trade him next year 30 a team might be getting a year, maybe 2 (doubt it) of his prime.

He's at that point where he's at the top. Only where to go now is down

What about him has shown that he's slowing down or on the verge of slowing down?

O.city · 08-10-2023, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

The most versatile defender on the roster, the Chiefs record holder for most tackles in a season, and 40% of the offensive line that protects the heart of the franchise, including the best C in the league? Jones isn't valuable enough to make up for losing those 4.

Yes, they're all good players.

Jones or no Jones, they aren't all staying here.

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