Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 57

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

Balto · 08-07-2023, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

oooof

Brett Veach: Chiefs have no intention to trade Chris Jones. (When others have said that about other players, the next move has often been a trade.) https://t.co/QHVeF0ikQY
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) August 8, 2023

Said the same about Hill

frozenchief · 08-07-2023, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto

Said the same about Hill

Hill put them in a no-win situation. So far, Jones has not done that.

warpaint* · 08-08-2023, 02:34 AM

The difference with Hill is that they rightly figured they could have success with a different makeup and Kelce has always been the chains mover.

Jones is the 2nd most important player on the team and the defense struggles when he is not on the field. That said he is pricing himself out of town possibly. If so it would be ideal if they could trade him now as the contract extension that’s possibly coming anyway will probably not age well but there is no way to replicate his production this coming season….tag and trade next offseason is not a bad idea. He’s not sitting out the season, too much $ to leave on the table. Agreeing not to tag isn’t happening.

Regardless I don’t blame them for paying him if that’s how it goes.

GloryDayz · 08-08-2023, 04:09 AM

I wonder how much stressing Jones is doing each day? The fine my not be too much to him, but I wonder if the team is letting his mind wonder?

Skyy God · 08-08-2023, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief

Hill put them in a no-win situation. So far, Jones has not done that.

Unless there’s some miracle cap solution of which I’m unaware, $500K in cap space going into a season is untenable. Can’t pick up any vets in case of injury.

Jones seems to be treating an outlier contact (Donald) like the baseline. Like with Watson’s fully guaranteed deal, it’s not a precedent.

Stand-off seems pretty tense. Solid 40% CJ is traded.

MVChiefFan · 08-08-2023, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto

Said the same about Hill

Link? I don’t remember much being said about Hill before he was traded.

FringeNC · 08-08-2023, 06:28 AM

How much in a trade could we get for Chris Jones? It is really not a very smart strategy to give up a bunch of draft picks AND have to make the guy the highest paid at the position. Miami did that for Hill -- maybe a team would do that for Jones, too.

Chris Jones is close to getting shipped out of town. He may make a few more million but then it is going to dawn on him that it's not going to change his lifestyle at all, and he's not having nearly as much fun because he won't be competing for championships every single year.

Skyy God · 08-08-2023, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

Link? I don’t remember much being said about Hill before he was traded.

That situation went from fine to traded in like an hour.

Rasputin · 08-08-2023, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

How much in a trade could we get for Chris Jones? It is really not a very smart strategy to give up a bunch of draft picks AND have to make the guy the highest paid at the position. Miami did that for Hill -- maybe a team would do that for Jones, too.

Chris Jones is close to getting shipped out of town. He may make a few more million but then it is going to dawn on him that it's not going to change his lifestyle at all, and he's not having nearly as much fun because he won't be competing for championships every single year.

How do you know ow he is about to get shipped out of town? Are you in on the meetings with Varth and Andy Ried and Clark Hunt? Chiefs are set to runic back to the Super Bowl but really need Jones on the field.

Rasputin · 08-08-2023, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

How much in a trade could we get for Chris Jones? It is really not a very smart strategy to give up a bunch of draft picks AND have to make the guy the highest paid at the position. Miami did that for Hill -- maybe a team would do that for Jones, too.

Chris Jones is close to getting shipped out of town. He may make a few more million but then it is going to dawn on him that it's not going to change his lifestyle at all, and he's not having nearly as much fun because he won't be competing for championships every single year.

How do you know ow he is about to get shipped out of town? Are you in on the meetings with Varth and Andy Ried and Clark Hunt? Chiefs are set to run it back to the Super Bowl but really need Jones on the field.

Marcellus · 08-08-2023, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief

Hill put them in a no-win situation. So far, Jones has not done that.

Not to mention the scenarios couldn't be more different. Jones wont bring even a 1st round pick. Hill was a transcendent skill position player who was still very young.

Jones will be 30 soon and this will be his 2nd big contract so teams aren't unloading a ton of draft capital and the $$ to get Jones.

O.city · 08-08-2023, 07:09 AM

"A few more million".

A few more million over a couple years adds up guys.

Skyy God · 08-08-2023, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

"A few more million".

A few more million over a couple years adds up guys.

Just pay them a few more million was Dorsey’s MO.

O.city · 08-08-2023, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyy God

Just pay them a few more million was Dorsey’s MO.

Yes, clearly Veach is opposed to that.....

Maybe we should ask the highest paid LG and RT in football?

**BigRedChief** · 08-08-2023, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

They're definitely paying Bolton and Creed though.

What about Trey Smith?

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Originally Posted by O.city

Sneed isn’t getting a huge payday

Hell get paid but it ain’t gonna be anything crazy

I don't know good CB's are a rare item.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If I’m CJs agent, I’m saying “there are 2 ways my client shows up before a few days before game 1…

A guarantee not to use the franchise tag on him next year (I believe this was used by Silverback a couple years ago)

Or

Meet our contract demands, which we think are fair.

I think this freight train is heading right into this. But, in no way does Veach allow this to happen if it gets that far.

The Chiefs still have him controlled for 2 more years. Veach is not agreeing to give a good first round pick. Chris will be sitting out all year if the Chiefs only get this this year and that's it. It will end badly for him and the Chiefs.

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warpaint* Facts are stubborn things. Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $4704900	The difference with Hill is that they rightly figured they could have success with a different makeup and Kelce has always been the chains mover. Jones is the 2nd most important player on the team and the defense struggles when he is not on the field. That said he is pricing himself out of town possibly. If so it would be ideal if they could trade him now as the contract extension that’s possibly coming anyway will probably not age well but there is no way to replicate his production this coming season….tag and trade next offseason is not a bad idea. He’s not sitting out the season, too much $ to leave on the table. Agreeing not to tag isn’t happening. Regardless I don’t blame them for paying him if that’s how it goes.
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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1563986	How much in a trade could we get for Chris Jones? It is really not a very smart strategy to give up a bunch of draft picks AND have to make the guy the highest paid at the position. Miami did that for Hill -- maybe a team would do that for Jones, too. Chris Jones is close to getting shipped out of town. He may make a few more million but then it is going to dawn on him that it's not going to change his lifestyle at all, and he's not having nearly as much fun because he won't be competing for championships every single year.
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