The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Problem is, let’s say hypothetically they let Jones play out his contract and walk next year. You can tag and trade, but he’s taking up most of the salary cap until he is traded and it hurts your ability to sign other free agents.

You can let him walk but then the roster is almost completely void of talent at DT and you don’t have any additional picks to help address the position. Left tackle is very likely your top need (again) so can you really use your 1st at DT when QB1s blind spot protection is in question again? You’d have to hope 1-2 of Leonard Williams, Christian Wilkins, or DJ Reader are available as the top FA options on the market outside of Jones. Of course they’ll all likely command large contracts, so are they that much lower than Jones that it’s worth it to not just extend Jones?

If they're set on tag and trade, then do it next February, find a trade partner at the combine and trade him before FA starts.

[kcgreene]

Originally Posted by O.city

Oh, yeah, if they wanna tag and trade him next year, sure. We've got FA and the draft to move and shake and do some things.

But you absolutely can't do it right now.

Completely agree. If that happened right now, barring you are getting a high end DLineman in return as part of the package (which begs the question why the trade is happening in the first place), then we are in a bad spot for the year.

That being said, Jones sitting out the year doesn't help him getting a new contract next year, so I doubt he'll take the Leveon Bell route.

[kcgreene]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If they're set on tag and trade, then do it next February, find a trade partner at the combine and trade him before FA starts.

If it looks like this is the eventuality, you have a whole year to get feelers for returns, etc.

[FloridaMan88]

Did Chris Jones change his contract demands last minute to want closer to Aaron Donald’s contract?

I am asking because the Chiefs were publicly indicating they thought they were close to getting a deal done with him before training camp.

If Chris Jones was asking all along to be a close second to Aaron Donald’s contract number… then the Chiefs surprise that he is holding out over not getting that contract is interesting.

Unless they thought his choice of a contract protest would be a hold in rather than a hold out?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Losing an all pro Defensive player of the year candidate is gonna make you a worse team. I don't know how this is really a thing we're discussing.

You have zero idea how good this defense will be this year, with or without Jones. Obviously he makes the defense much better but you are very much blowing this thing out of proportion.

There is also a difference in knowing a guy isn't going to be there and being able to plan it and a guy suddenly dropping out of the defense do to injury or something midway through the season.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

If we're a worse team, we aren't going to be able to compete in the current AFC field with what we have to offer on the DL. There's alot of talent there sure, but you take away the cornerstone of the defense and they can't get the stops they need.

In your mind, every AFC contender not named KC is going to be just as good or better than last year, no drop off possible. We all get it.

[bringbackmarty]

Ok Chris, you've made your point, Burt is gonna take care of you.
Pads go on today. Do yourself a favor and take the weekend, think the offer over then sign on the dotted line please. History is not kind to linemen who hold out of camp, knees get blown out, PECS get torn.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You have zero idea how good this defense will be this year, with or without Jones. Obviously he makes the defense much better but you are very much blowing this thing out of proportion.

There is also a difference in knowing a guy isn't going to be there and being able to plan it and a guy suddenly dropping out of the defense do to injury or something midway through the season.

Everyone points to the Bengals game. Yes Chris had an amazing game, but everyone helped. Danna played well, Frank played well, Karlaftis played well for the most part, Spags created nice designs (Willie Gay sack).

"We don't win that game without Chris". Sure but the offense was seriously hampered. Mahomes couldn't move and we lost Toney, Juju and Watson. He basically had Kemp and rookie Skyy out there at WR. The offense was injured and it showed.

Despite that Mahomes still balled with MVS. But yes if we had one of Juju or Toney and Mahomes isn't hurt, we blow them out to the ****ing water. We were on pace too until Mahomes weird fumble.

And keep in mind that Jones and others dominated a backup Bengals OL. Their starting tackles and G were all out.

Chris didn't really do anything in the SB either. Bottom line this team runs on Mahomes, Andy and Kelce. It's always been this way.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

In your mind, every AFC contender not named KC is going to be just as good or better than last year, no drop off possible. We all get it.

The offensive teams usually translate year to year, so yeah.

The Chiefs defense would likely drop off without Chris Jones at this point.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Everyone points to the Bengals game. Yes Chris had an amazing game, but everyone helped. Danna played well, Frank played well, Karlaftis played well for the most part, Spags created nice designs (Willie Gay sack).

"We don't win that game without Chris". Sure but the offense was seriously hampered. Mahomes couldn't move and we lost Toney, Juju and Watson. He basically had Kemp and rookie Skyy out there at WR. The offense was injured and it showed.

Despite that Mahomes still balled with MVS. But yes if we had one of Juju or Toney and Mahomes isn't hurt, we blow them out to the ****ing water. We were on pace too until Mahomes weird fumble.

And keep in mind that Jones and others dominated a backup Bengals OL. Their starting tackles and G were all out.

Chris didn't really do anything in the SB either. Bottom line this team runs on Mahomes, Andy and Kelce. It's always been this way.

The best DT in the game drawing double and triple teams every snap has nothing to do with those guys playing well. Noted.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by O.city

The best DT in the game drawing double and triple teams every snap has nothing to do with those guys playing well. Noted.

Exaggerate much?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Exaggerate much?

I mean, no. He's been Aaron Donalds equal the last couple years, last year specifically.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

The best DT in the game drawing double and triple teams every snap has nothing to do with those guys playing well. Noted.

The Chiefs also played against a backup OL. Jonah Williams, La'el Collins and Alex Cappa all out and Ted Karras was fighting a knee injury.

It was basically SB55 for them.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The Chiefs also played against a backup OL. Jonah Williams, La'el Collins and Alex Cappa all out and Ted Karras was fighting a knee injury.

It was basically SB55 for them.

And?

[O.city]

This definitely makes the next couple of years alot easier contractually, we don't really have to worry about signing any defensive players to extensions.