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Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:11 PM   #211
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If 30 is legit, I'd not do shit, let him play out this year tag him and trade him off.
I totally agree with this take. As much as I like Chris Jones if he wants 30 he's going to have to go. We should get a big year out of him as well.
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:38 PM   #212
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We gonna get the shit effort version of Jones this year. That's what 20 mil will get us.
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:47 PM   #213
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If 30 is legit, I'd not do shit, let him play out this year tag him and trade him off.
Depends on the structure.

If he and his agent will clear getting to a 30M AAV on a deal that is really 4/104-112 from 2023-26, but has a balloon at the end that makes it 5/150, I think the Chiefs can and will do that. And it likely all works out.

Even the Quinnen Williams deal does that (new year 4 is 30.4M cap hit, other 3 new years average about 23M), and that's pretty standard for contracts and accepted. Unless you're Orlando Brown, Jr. and his agent (then it's shocking and brand new information).

$30M signing bonus:

23: 21M cap hit
24: 28M cap hit
25: 28M cap hit
26: 32M cap hit
27: 41M cap hit

This gets you to roughly a deal that is, on paper 5/$146.5M. Which is close enough for argument's sake.

Years 1-4 are 4/109, or 27.25M/year in money. You can play with the guarantees to make Year 4 a tough cut if he wants more protection, or add a little more onto the 23 cap hit (which currently is set to save them exactly what he wants saved).

If he's willing to play ball on Year 5, you could maybe have the actual contract be more like 4/104M in real money. Maybe add a guaranteed salary to year 5 as well that makes the obvious cut point more painful in terms of dead cap (another $5M guaranteed would make that $10M but put the money in his pocket, shift some of the 23-26 money later, and also give him a better negotiation point to negotiate and stick around at that point if that's what he wants).

There are a lot of options here.
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We gonna get the shit effort version of Jones this year. That's what 20 mil will get us.
That would totally erase his ability to get that big contract he wants. That makes no sense.
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We gonna get the shit effort version of Jones this year. That's what 20 mil will get us.
Not if he's playing for a new deal. If he's trying to incentivize a team to come get him and give him a huge bag, he has to play at that level.
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Regardless of what happens, Veach has a plan, and I'm confident this team will compete effectively with or without Chris Jones on our DLine.
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We gonna get the shit effort version of Jones this year. That's what 20 mil will get us.
What shit effort? Dude signed a huge contract and totally transformed his diet and conditioning. I never really got people questioning his effort. Yeah a massive DT who constantly gets doubled is gonna get tired from time to time.
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What shit effort? Dude signed a huge contract and totally transformed his diet and conditioning. I never really got people questioning his effort. Yeah a massive DT who constantly gets doubled is gonna get tired from time to time.
I have to agree with you here. I don't think Jones will give less effort. He's too passionate of a player.
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What shit effort? Dude signed a huge contract and totally transformed his diet and conditioning. I never really got people questioning his effort. Yeah a massive DT who constantly gets doubled is gonna get tired from time to time.
Didn't think Badger would make business decisions but he did. Jones will probably as well if he doesn't get his crazy money and he isn't getting it from us. He has no locked up money for next year right now and that most definitely will affect his play.
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If he doesn't agree to a deal in the next few weeks then why keep him? Would you give a long term deal to a 30 year old DL?

Donald himself saw signs of decline at 31 last year and $30 million APY would have to be a 5 or so year deal to spread out that money.

Feels like if we don't get this done now, he'll be tagged and traded next year.
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Didn't think Badger would make business decisions but he did. Jones will probably as well if he doesn't get his crazy money and he isn't getting it from us. He has no locked up money for next year right now and that most definitely will affect his play.
There's a rather large difference between being an undersized defensive back who has succeeded via max effort and intelligence and being a DT who is bigger and stronger than literally any single person who lines up across from him.
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If he doesn't agree to a deal in the next few weeks then why keep him? Would you give a long term deal to a 30 year old DL?

Donald himself saw signs of decline at 31 last year and $30 million APY would have to be a 5 or so year deal to spread out that money.

Feels like if we don't get this done now, he'll be tagged and traded next year.
I think the only way you'd keep him is if you deem keeping him on the tag better than letting him walk as a FA because a deal couldn't be made.

I don't think they'll tag him and expect him to play on the tag, though. If they tag him, it would be because they know they can move him to a team with cap space, looking to go over the top in 2024.
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