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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 04-27-2023, 12:51 PM   #3481
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Old 04-27-2023, 12:53 PM   #3482
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I don't see how the Chiefs can afford Hopkins. The cap hit for the Chiefs would be $19MM in 2023.

DeAndre Hopkins Cap Hit
Hopkins will carry a cap hit of $30,750,000 in 2023 and $26,215,000 in 2024. Additionally, he has a dead cap hit of $22,600,000 in 2023 and $11,300,000 in 2024.

It was reported this offseason that Hopkins’ suspension in 2022 voided the no-trade clause in his contract.

If traded, his cap hits for his new team would be $19.45 million in 2023 and $14.915 million in 2024.

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No one knows how we can afford it. I've seen speculation that Chris Jones', Travis', and MVS' deals can all be restructured to come up with the needed $$$. But no one inside the organization has said anything like that is in the works.

But we do know that Veach can manipulate the cap like no other, so personally not concerned about the money. If we want him that bad, Veach will find a way to get the money. And we know that Veach has shown some interest in DHop.

He showed that he was very interested in getting AJ Brown last season, and look what he's getting. In fact, since Sammy's departure, Veach has made multiple attempts at replacing him with another top-30 prototypical WR, so my guess is that he has a solid plan on how to pay the guy by now. So how DHop gets paid isn't a huge concern for me at least. Veach knows what he's doing.
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:09 PM   #3483
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I mean the Rams paid $10M of Allen Robinson's $15M when he was traded to the Steelers.

So even if AZ paid $10M of his $19M PLUS we sent MVS to the Cards in the deal that would mean a net cap hit of only about $2M for 2023. Veach can find that in his sock drawer.
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:10 PM   #3484
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I mean the Rams paid $10M of Allen Robinson's $15M when he was traded to the Steelers.

So even if AZ paid $10M of his $19M PLUS we sent MVS to the Cards in the deal that would mean a net cap hit of only about $2M for 2023. Veach can find that in his sock drawer.
They'd probably want a better pick to cover that much money.
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:17 PM   #3485
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They'd probably want a better pick to cover that much money.
Cards get:
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MVS-Saves us $7M
CEH-Saves us $2M
Plus pay $10M of the $19M for 2023

Chiefs get:
#34
Hopkins

This would mean Hopkins for 2023 would be almost no cap hit! Cards do need a RB and will need a WR with Hopkins gone. In draft picks they move up a few spots to gain that 5th year option from a 1st round pick AND a 3rd rounder.

WIN WIN WIN
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:18 PM   #3486
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:19 PM   #3487
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That is dangerously close to Nuthook territory young man…
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:20 PM   #3488
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We aren't trading MVS. Get over that.

It'll be a pick if anything
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:22 PM   #3489
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We aren't trading MVS. Get over that.

It'll be a pick if anything
Probably 90% correct even if Veach should trade him if Hopkins is coming to town!

His $7M saved cap space is worth more than what he will bring to a Kelce, Hopkins, Toney, Skyy mainly focus pass game.
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:22 PM   #3490
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Also saw something, can't find it now, on tweeter that the Lions are in talks with the Cards that would send the #6th overall pick to AZ for the #34+Budda+Hopkins. No idea how real this is /shrug
This sounds more like one of your ridiculous made up scenarios.
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This sounds more like one of your ridiculous made up scenarios.
Wasn't me I swear haha
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:24 PM   #3492
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Is CP really this dumb? MVS is t going anywhere, in fact we wouldn’t even of made it to the Super Bowl if it wasn’t for MVS
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Old 04-27-2023, 01:28 PM   #3493
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Is CP really this dumb? MVS is t going anywhere, in fact we wouldn’t even of made it to the Super Bowl if it wasn’t for MVS
Some are. I know I bring down the average IQ. People only like me because I'm easy. Like Lionel and Sunday morning. Would rather have had JuJu for the long term. But it made sense at the time. Hoping that MVS ups his game this year. He needs to contribute more than 2 TDs.
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Cards get:
#31
#95
MVS-Saves us $7M
CEH-Saves us $2M
Plus pay $10M of the $19M for 2023

Chiefs get:
#34
Hopkins

This would mean Hopkins for 2023 would be almost no cap hit! Cards do need a RB and will need a WR with Hopkins gone. In draft picks they move up a few spots to gain that 5th year option from a 1st round pick AND a 3rd rounder.

WIN WIN WIN
MVS has a dead cap hit of $10M if cut or traded.

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