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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 04-26-2023, 02:30 PM   #3376
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God this would be infuriating. This situation is going to be Julio Jones 2.0.

Julio played 9 games in 2020 at age 31 and had 771 yds receiving. The next year with the Titans he continued being injured and sucked shit and this year he was on his 3rd team in 3 years.

Titans gave up a 2nd and a 4th for a broke dick that couldn't stay on the field. If someone trades for DHop the same exact thing happens or it happens with the Cardinals.
Look what offense and QB Julio had with Titans...A better example you could use would be Moss instead of Julio. Let me try,

Moss put in stone a HOF career by getting traded to NE and Brady. HE put up record numbers and helped take a SB team into a higher realm by winning all regular season games and coming very very close to winning a SB.

Hopkins coming to KC to join Mahomes has a much closer feel than Julio, already a broke dick, going to the Titans to join a run heavy team and a shitty QB.
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Old 04-26-2023, 02:43 PM   #3377
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This idea that Hopkins is a broke dick is kinda funny.
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Old 04-26-2023, 02:48 PM   #3379
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This idea that Hopkins is a broke dick is kinda funny.
100% agree
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Old 04-26-2023, 02:49 PM   #3380
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This idea that Hopkins is a broke dick is kinda funny.
It’s pretty silly, but then again look who’s saying that.
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Old 04-26-2023, 03:20 PM   #3381
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I'd be pretty thrilled if we pulled off a reasonable trade for Hopkins the night before the draft. Would really plug a major hole for us, but I hope we don't give up our 2nd rounder.
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Old 04-26-2023, 04:09 PM   #3382
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My guess would be his moon logic consists of us having 10 picks and Veach being able to draft pro bowl level talent in the 5th and later.
Well, I'm a Veach fan, but I don't think we should expect that every year.
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Well, I'm a Veach fan, but I don't think we should expect that every year.
Yeah, that is very tough to do year in and year out.
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I'd be pretty thrilled if we pulled off a reasonable trade for Hopkins the night before the draft. Would really plug a major hole for us, but I hope we don't give up our 2nd rounder.
It wouldn’t be ideal, but do you expect to get someone better than Hopkins at the end of the 2nd round? Especially at WR.
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It wouldn’t be ideal, but do you expect to get someone better than Hopkins at the end of the 2nd round? Especially at WR.
A 2nd would be a steal for Veach IF AZ ate that $19M.
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He'd play 17 games an would be considered NFLPOY, and MVP!!
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A 2nd would be a steal for Veach IF AZ ate that $19M.
Lol, ARI is trying to free up some cap space as well as acquire a couple exttra picks for rebuilding purposes, so that's not going to happen.

But if they ate $7-$9 million or so, that would give us Dhop for basically the same money that we're paying MVS, which would be a ridiculous steal for KC. And we wouldn't even have to play MVS as a starter.

Put Toney, DHop in as your starters, then it doesn't even really matter if Skyy blows up or not. Just between Toney and DHop you're probably getting 2,400-2,600 yards and 15-18 TDs combined. Assuming that Toney would be able to play 15+ games in that scenario.

If Toney can't stay healthy, no problem, MVS comes in and plays his role, and Skyy is fine as long as he can basically double his yards (500) and get 4-6 TDs, and then any combination of one of the Ross boys (I have no faith that both will suit up every week) and Richie James and/or whichever rook WR we draft can produce the moderate amount of production we'd need if Toney has the gimps next season and/or Skyy doesn't develop as perfectly as we'd need/like.

Bottom line, we're not hoping that two or three WRs that don't have any real proven success to become actual starting caliber WRs with no safety net.
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No chance in hell. We don't have the money to pay a 9 game guy.
Lol, why would he only play 9 games? He's not going to get suspended again.

Btw, if DHop hadn't gotten suspended, he'd have gone for 1,300+ yards and 8-10 TDs in 15 games in 2022. With three of the least efficient QBs throwing to him all year.

Imagine what he would've done with an actual elite QB . . . 1,800 yards? 15 TDs? More? This is a guy that has already had a season or two where he didn't drop a single ball (2019?).

Or how about all those balls that MVS and JJSS couldn't bring in last season? Especially all those over routes that MVS just couldn't get figured out. Or those intermediate crossers that JJSS had issues with? Those are all catches if DHop was the target.

That'd have to be worth a 2nd, or a 3rd and a 5th or whatever and a measly $10 million in 2023.
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How many times has Moore lost a game to injury? Hmm. Me thinks he's going show out this year. Maybe not, but I bet he does.

Of course, that has nothing to do with FA or drafted WR's
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