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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 03-24-2023, 02:20 PM   #2686
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I think teams will counter more this year and be more aggressive against us.

They will go back to Mahomes early days and challenge us to beat them over the top or to beat man coverage.

So sitting still is not the best plan and that's why I think Veach/Reid aren't done yet.
Hadn't really thought about it until you just brought it up, but yeah, opposing defenses are going to play more man/press man in 2023 just looking at the WRs we have on the roster right now. Who wouldn't? Only man-beater we have is Toney. And as talented as he is, it's still worse than a coinflip whether he can play more than half of the games. If he gets gimpy, we're talking Skyy, Justin Watson (if he returns), and one of the Ross boys. Justyn I guess. If Skyy gets dinged up, then i have no idea, but that's also why there's no way Veach stands pat on the WR room, or thinks "we can just draft a couple WRs and we'll be fine." Nah, no way.

But Veach/Andy don't stand still. They're always hunting around for talent. I just think that this season they're going to be more serious about it. They aren't going to try another prove-it deal with the likes of Kelvin Benjamin, L. Bell, Josh Gordon, etc. The cupboard's too bare for that. Whoever they sign, it'll be a guy they know will produce pretty much from Day 1.
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Old 03-24-2023, 02:23 PM   #2687
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Hadn't really thought about it until you just brought it up, but yeah, opposing defenses are going to play more man/press man in 2023 just looking at the WRs we have on the roster right now.
They already were last season.

Simms talked about how many times he couldn't believe what he was seeing. Something like, "This is the Kansas City Chiefs. I can't believe what i'm seeing here. You're gonna walk your safeties up that close to the line?"

He said that a few times last season....
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Old 03-24-2023, 02:25 PM   #2688
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I think teams will counter more this year and be more aggressive against us.

They will go back to Mahomes early days and challenge us to beat them over the top or to beat man coverage.

So sitting still is not the best plan and that's why I think Veach/Reid aren't done yet.
Completely agree.
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They already were last season.

Simms talked about how many times he couldn't believe what he was seeing. Something like, "This is the Kansas City Chiefs. I can't believe what i'm seeing here. You're gonna walk your safeties up that close to the line?"

He said that a few times last season....
Yeah, that's true. But if, and like I said I don't believe it, but if Andy/Veach decided to "just go with the WR room as-is," and just draft a couple WRs, as a DC i'd be practically drooling. It would greatly simplify how they'd scheme a plan against us.

Last season it seemed like it took DCs a few weeks to figure out that they could just man up JuJu, and before Toney showed up, when they did that, the offense often stalled quickly. But by Week 8-9 or whatever, DCs started consistently taking JuJu away.
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Toney is very talented and also very injury prone. No way I'd go into the season with the WR room as is. I doubt the Chiefs do that.
I think it means that they're okay with where it stands before the draft (although I wouldn't be). I'm sure they'll be using a high pick on WR if they don't sign one. Maybe even trade up in the first.
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He will drop passes at crucial times. That's it.

Thank God that TD catch in the AFCCG wasn't at a crucial time at all, or all the other big catches he had in that game.
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Duh, I mean did you not see how wide open Toney and Moore were for TD's in the Super Bowl?
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Mecole in his PC said he didn't think the Chiefs even offered him a contract. I am pretty convinced now we are going all in on rookie WR's like we did with the DB's last season. You get 4-5 years of low cost control.
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Mecole in his PC said he didn't think the Chiefs even offered him a contract. I am pretty convinced now we are going all in on rookie WR's like we did with the DB's last season. You get 4-5 years of low cost control.
Control of what exactly?
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Control of what exactly?
The player. You draft them and you have their rights for 4-5 years at a pretty low cost.
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The player. You draft them and you have their rights for 4-5 years at a pretty low cost.
Lol, I know you get control for 4-5 years. But thanks for the info. That was polite of you.

My question is what exactly does that give you control over? How much production can we count on from a couple rookie WRs? Can we look at past history of Chiefs drafted WRs and extrapolate?

How many yards, 1st downs, and TDs can we expect from these rookies? North of 1,000 yards, 30-40 1st downs and 10 TDs?

How about situational football IQ? How many will be installed into the 4-minute or 2-minute offense by mid-season? Hurry-up? You know, situations where they would have to be on the field 8-12 snaps in a row, maybe no-huddle, be 100% on audibles, etc.?

Or, will those rooks spend most of their time hanging around on the sideline, catch 20-30 passes for the year? i mean, I know you don't know any better than I do so I'm not trying to be a dick here, but historically which is more likely?
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