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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 03-23-2023, 03:51 PM   #2461
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Yeah. Not sure why that's a question. btw, in six of those games the Chiefs scored 24 points or less. Below league average (25pts, iirc).
You recall incorrectly, league average was 21.9, keep in mind that number is inflated by the teams at the top.

KC failed to score 21.9pts 3 times in 20 games including playoffs. So above average 17/20. That's not struggling bud.

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Old 03-23-2023, 03:54 PM   #2462
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Old 03-23-2023, 03:55 PM   #2463
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I don't want to turn this into another argument about Hopkins' attitude (because I don't think he'd have those issues here) but honestly, Hopkins is a lot like Diggs when it comes to contracts and being happy with their situation, there's a real chance they could have TWO WR's bitching this time next year when they fail to reach the Super Bowl again.
People kind of act like Hopkins is/was some choir boy. He never was.
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Old 03-23-2023, 03:57 PM   #2464
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People kind of act like Hopkins is/was some choir boy. He never was.
I'm willing to bet he would be in KC.
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Old 03-23-2023, 04:00 PM   #2465
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I'm willing to bet he would be in KC.
Sure, of course. Which is why ive never brought it up till now.

But like Htis said, he's very very similar to Diggs.
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62 posts = "I've barely posted in this thread"

JFC man, you are the most unaware douche in history.
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Old 03-23-2023, 04:06 PM   #2467
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how many before today? not many
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Old 03-23-2023, 04:06 PM   #2468
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You recall incorrectly, league average was 21.9, keep in mind that number is inflated by the teams at the top.

KC failed to score 21.9pts 3 times in 20 games including playoffs. So above average 17/20. That's not struggling bud.

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Hmm. I'll have to check those numbers again. 22 points? you think scoring 22 points is good?

24 points for this offense is struggling though. And well below our 'top offense' average of 29+ on the season. Nearly 11 points below KC's 2018 scoring average per game. And 2022 is the only season in Mahomes' career the Chiefs scored 27 or less in more than 6-7 games.

EDIT: that 24pt/avg (23.7) was from mid-season. Maybe week 7-8. Scoring across the league took a dip in 2022. My bad.
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Clay has fallen to darkness again like King Theoden. No worries. Mahomes will be back soon with his staff to cast it out once more as Gandalf did with the King of Rohan.
Just have everyone state the opposite opinion if you want him on the other side of the fence
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That is a point I didn't think about...
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That is a point I didn't think about...
The optics aren't very good, for sure. Not sure how Andy fared in PHI with WRs drafted, but I don't recall any particular standouts either, outside of Desean jackson. Westbrook, but he was a RB.
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Why do I get the feeling if we miss out on OBJ or Hopkins, that Veach is gonna give up a significant amounts of picks to go up and get who he thinks is gonna be a stud wr?
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The overwhelming majority of those guys are day 3 picks and UDFAs.

They've yet to spend a 1st and have only spent 2 2nd rounders in his entire tenure.

That has more to do with it than anything.
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Because past the 3rd round or so, it’s hard to find guys that develop into high level guys

They did it with hill.

The problem is lack of high picks
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