Do we want DeHop?

[ROYC75]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9536dcd3&ei=21


Story by Andrew Gould




The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

I have no idea what these things mean or not, or if players just do it to mess with people, but this was just posted to DeAndre Hopkins Instagram a few minutes ago: pic.twitter.com/s02iUVpWmH

— Sal Capaccio 🏈 (@SalSports) March 22, 2023

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Can we all just agree to kill Mahomo?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: assume Mahomo is a 7yr old posting on CP and it'll all make sense and be totally adorable. Otherwise, he'll likely be the subject of a Dateline segment.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Well if you want my come back you will have to scrape it from your mom's teeth.

This would be funny if you weren't clearly an incel who lives in their mom's basement.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

mid round pick? No, I don't think that's likely at all.

I'd bet they go earlier than that, no later than #63, and I bet they bring back Watson, and I bet they sign or trade for a younger guy with some upside, like Callaway, just as an example.

They're not going to ignore the situation, they just see it differently than you do.

Maybe differently than I do, but at any rate, it looks like they're not interested in Dhop or OBJ at the cost. That's looking like a 0% chance.

I really don’t get where this continues to come from.

0% chance? There’s literally nothing to suggest that they have no shot. The two guys they’ve been linked to haven’t gone anywhere yet.

Zero interest? So the chiefs wasted their time attending these workouts for obj. Because Daniel Jeremiah said DHop is linked to buffalo but Albert breer saying kc is linked to DHop is not credible.

There is nothing to suggest either guy is in or out of play. There is a ton of smoke that the chiefs are at least taking an active interest and little to suggest they are not. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean you can read the signals your way and give an absolute response. Nobody really knows except it seems clear the chiefs are genuinely sniffing around

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by staylor26

This would be funny if you weren't clearly an incel who lives in their mom's basement.

Yeah, but it's comfy, and your Mom has the keys. Do me a favor, tell her 'See you Saturday'.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I really don’t get where this continues to come from.

0% chance? There’s literally nothing to suggest that they have no shot. The two guys they’ve been linked to haven’t gone anywhere yet.

Zero interest? So the chiefs wasted their time attending these workouts for obj. Because Daniel Jeremiah said DHop is linked to buffalo but Albert breer saying kc is linked to DHop is not credible.

There is nothing to suggest either guy is in or out of play. There is a ton of smoke that the chiefs are at least taking an active interest and little to suggest they are not. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean you can read the signals your way and give an absolute response. Nobody really knows except it seems clear the chiefs are genuinely sniffing around

Even those 2 things aren't comparable. Jeremiah was just saying the Bills are his #1 landing spot for Hopkins. It wasn't a report like Albert Breer linking the Chiefs to him.

That's not even what DJ does. He's a draft guy. He doesn't report stuff like that or break news. It's the FA/trade equivalent of a mock draft.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Even those 2 things aren't comparable. Jeremiah was just saying the Bills are his #1 landing spot for Hopkins. It wasn't a report like Albert Breer linking the Chiefs to him.

That's not even what DJ does. He's a draft guy. He doesn't report stuff like that or break news. It's the FA/trade equivalent of a mock draft.

Staylor take a seat here, you’re wrong and it’s okay

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Staylor take a seat here, you’re wrong and it’s okay

You're free to explain how I'm wrong dipshit...

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I’m hearing rumors spread on twitter right now that the offer is a 4th rounder and 6th no reputable source but multiple

Bills fans will lose it now if we sign him. He deleted the buffalo soldier thing

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I really don’t get where this continues to come from.

0% chance? There’s literally nothing to suggest that they have no shot. The two guys they’ve been linked to haven’t gone anywhere yet.

Zero interest? So the chiefs wasted their time attending these workouts for obj. Because Daniel Jeremiah said DHop is linked to buffalo but Albert breer saying kc is linked to DHop is not credible.

There is nothing to suggest either guy is in or out of play. There is a ton of smoke that the chiefs are at least taking an active interest and little to suggest they are not. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean you can read the signals your way and give an absolute response. Nobody really knows except it seems clear the chiefs are genuinely sniffing around

Literally half the league attended OBJ's workout.

It's called due diligence.

Maybe it's not a zero percent chance, but it's highly unlikely.

And you guys are arguing with me like if you can just convince me, it'll happen. I'm not Brett Veach. I'm not Andy Reid.

If it somehow came to pass, I'll cheer for them just like I would anyways, but it's not bloody likely, and grows less so every day.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

mid round pick? No, I don't think that's likely at all.

I'd bet they go earlier than that, no later than #63, and I bet they bring back Watson, and I bet they sign or trade for a younger guy with some upside, like Callaway, just as an example.

They're not going to ignore the situation, they just see it differently than you do.

Maybe differently than I do, but at any rate, it looks like they're not interested in Dhop or OBJ at the cost. That's looking like a 0% chance.

Problem is, your solution here doesn't really address the problem.

Travis is the only guy on the team that reliably can beat man or zone. JuJu could beat zone pretty well, not press man. Toney can beat press man, but he's still a little raw beating zone. Skyy knows how to run routes vs. man, has a hard time against press, and doesn't know how to beat zone. All MVS does is stretch the field, which is necessary, but doesn't help with the rest of the WR room.

We either need another JuJu that can reliably beat zone, in spite of the fact that we let him go to NE when we easily could've afforded his contract. So, we need a WR that can do it all, which would be preferable.

I don't know which WRs we have a legit shot at in the draft, or how many of those can do what we need. And then we have the history of drafted WRs in KC, which isn't great. Most don't really get comfortable in Andy's offense in their first season, that's simply fact.

So, either we're signing a FA to replace JuJu's production/abilities, or we're going a different route in FA. Bearing in mind that the best option to replace JuJu was probably Thielen and he's gone. There was another one, don't remember his name, but he's gone as well. Then we passed on retaining Hardman, and we could've afforded him, if we wanted to go the cheap route for a second year in a row.

Then we factor in that Veach has been looking at premium WRs for several years now, he just hasn't signed one yet. Dez Bryant came in for a workout and caught passes from Pat. Veach spoke to OBJ just last season, apparently more than once. I know there was at least one other WR he was interested in between the two, but his name escapes me right now.

So saying that we're not in the market isn't accurate. We have been in the market nearly every year of Mahomes' career. We just haven't pulled the trigger on one. And if we're in the market, then Veach must be able to afford him, whoever it is.

I still have doubts it'll be either OBJ or DHop, but not for the money. Or the compensation. Veach can find the money, and the draft picks aren't as valuable as some people think.

Bottom line, we aren't going into the 2023 season with just MVS, Toney and Skyy as our top 3 WRs. It doesn't even fit Andy's history. He likes having a vet in the room. So, we're getting a veteran WR at some point before OTAs. Probably right around the draft. It'll be interesting to finally see who he is.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I'm obviously also talking about an early draft pick thrown in as well.

This mostly just comes down to Skyy and your feelings about him.

Sorry about the dislike. Didn't mean to do that.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Umm, DHop to BUF doesn't sound good...

Well played, DHop. You have the attention of the Chiefs Kingdom. That will drive up interest.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Problem is, your solution here doesn't really address the problem.

Travis is the only guy on the team that reliably can beat man or zone. JuJu could beat zone pretty well, not press man. Toney can beat press man, but he's still a little raw beating zone. Skyy knows how to run routes vs. man, has a hard time against press, and doesn't know how to beat zone. All MVS does is stretch the field, which is necessary, but doesn't help with the rest of the WR room.

We either need another JuJu that can reliably beat zone, in spite of the fact that we let him go to NE when we easily could've afforded his contract. So, we need a WR that can do it all, which would be preferable.

I dont know which WRs we have a legit shot at in the draft, or how many of those can do what we need. And then we have the history of drafted WRs in KC, which isn't great. Most don't really get comfortable in Andy's offense in their first season, that's simply fact.

So, either we're signing a FA to replace JuJu's production/abilities, or we're going a different route in FA. Bearing in mind that the best option to replace JuJu was probably Thielen and he's gone. There was another one, don't remember his name, but he's gone as well. Then we passed on retaining Hardman, and we could've afforded him, if we wanted to go the cheap route for a second year in a row.

Then w factor in that Veach has been looking at premium WRs for several years now, he just hasn't signed one yet. Dez Bryant came in for a workout and caught passes from Pat. Veach spoke to OBJ just last season, apparently more than once. I know there was at least one other WR he was interested in between the two, but his name escapes me right now.

So saying that we're not in the market isn't accurate. We have been in the market nearly every year of Mahomes' career. We just haven't pulled the trigger on one. And if we're in the market, then Veach must be able to afford him, whoever it is.

I still have doubts it'll be either OBJ or DHop, but not for the money. Or the compensation. Veach can find the money, and the draft picks aren't as valuable as some people think.

Bottom line, we aren't going into the 2023 season with just MVS, Toney and Skyy as our top 3 WRs. It doesn't even fit Andy's history. He likes having a vet in the room. So, we're getting a veteran WR at some point before OTAs. Probably right around the draft. It'll be interesting to finally see who he is.

When have I EVER said we weren't going to add anyone? It's a HUGE difference between we're not going to pay Hopkins or Beckham and we're not going to do ANYTHING.

Of course they're going to do something, it's just not going to be paying some over 30 WR a bunch of money.

It's probably not going to be something that you all are totally comfortable with. But we don't watch every practice, we don't sit in on every meeting.
These guys know what they're doing.

[alanm]

Beep Vartch wouldn't be letting all these guys go if he didn't have something up his sleeve. The suspense is killing me.