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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:41 PM   #1906
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Like most of the big ones it will likely be around TC.
I'd expect both OBJ and Dhop to be long gone by then.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:42 PM   #1907
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Well, when one of those guys is Skyy Moore and the other guy is supremely talented but always hurt, yeah there's gonna be a fear there.

I've been asking for young talent for awhile now so you're barking up the wrong tree with that one.

Like i said, i've resigned myself to the idea that the Chiefs may very well believe that Moore/Toney ARE the solution.

THAT's what you initially started arguing with me about.
I'm obviously also talking about an early draft pick thrown in as well.

This mostly just comes down to Skyy and your feelings about him.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:43 PM   #1908
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I don’t think the Jones extension hits until after the draft. Right around the time they need cap space for signing picks.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:44 PM   #1909
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Addison, Toney, and Moore would be a fanatic trio of young WRs.

Same with Mims/Scott, jsut to a slightly lesser degree.

You don't need to have a bonafide WR1 to have a really nice group for Mahomes to throw to for the next few years.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:44 PM   #1910
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I don’t think the Jones extension hits until after the draft. Right around the time they need cap space for signing picks.
So the cap space now can be used for OBJ/Hopkins, and that extension could be used for the draft picks.
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I'm obviously also talking about an early draft pick thrown in as well.

This mostly just comes down to Skyy and your feelings about him.
An early draft pick, unless it's a guy they move up for (but c'mon you really think there's a guy they'd wanna move up for here?) will still be seated behind Moore and Toney.

And yeah, i think Moore was a mistake. Regardless of how i feel, i'm simply interpreting the Chiefs actions thus far as them relying on him.

Would we be having this conversation if our trio were MVS/Pickens/Toney?

**** no. That kind of explains itself, doesn't it?
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Options are dwindling for Hopkins and OBJ every day.
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I guess I just don't understand the fear of letting a few young WRs grow with Mahomes either.

This defense is going to be really ****ing good, and the running game has been solved with Pacheco. We have the support system to win while the young guys at WR grow.
It's more that expecting Toney to not miss games is like not putting you're 16 year old daughter on birth control. You're playing with fire...
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It's more that expecting Toney to not miss games is like not putting you're 16 year old daughter on birth control. You're playing with fire...
Who's saying that you are expecting him not to miss any time? That's why I'm talking about having a deep group, even if there's not a bonafide WR1.
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Addison, Toney, and Moore would be a fanatic trio of young WRs.

Same with Mims/Scott, jsut to a slightly lesser degree.

You don't need to have a bonafide WR1 to have a really nice group for Mahomes to throw to for the next few years.
Sure, i'd love Addison in a Chiefs uni.

He's one of few that i think can come in and be an immediate contributor. JSN (though im not a fan), Addison...Flowers.
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Chiefs broke the NFL.

It's a copycat league. Teams were spending lots of money and trading lots draft capitol in order to acquire the services of high profile players. The Chiefs took the opposite approach and made many teams look like complete fools when they won the Super Bowl, pundits and all. Now it's a bear market.
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An early draft pick, unless it's a guy they move up for (but c'mon you really think there's a guy they'd wanna move up for here?) will still be seated behind Moore and Toney.

And yeah, i think Moore was a mistake. Regardless of how i feel, i'm simply interpreting the Chiefs actions thus far as them relying on him.

Would we be having this conversation if our trio were MVS/Pickens/Toney?

**** no. That kind of explains itself, doesn't it?
So you aren't willing to give the Chiefs the benefit of the doubt if they really are just that confident in Moore?

I swear I can't wait until Moore eventually ends this converstion and becomes a good player. It's getting so old.
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This shouldn't really even be in the conversation. We're talking about a blockbuster extension here. This extension isn't going to happen because the Chiefs are all of a sudden motivated to save on the cap.

We're talking like the most expensive and complicated extension the Chiefs will have to face over the next season or two can just be had like some casual cap savings move.

I wouldn't rely on that AT ALL.
Feels more likely than wanting to pay him $23m.
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So you aren't willing to give the Chiefs the benefit of the doubt if they really are just that confident in Moore?

I swear I can't wait until Moore eventually ends this converstion and becomes a good player. It's getting so old.
And if he doesn’t…prepare to eat a ton of shit.
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