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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:21 PM   #1891
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So why are there all these reports connecting the Chiefs to both Hopkins and OBJ dude?

If they can't make it work, why are the STILL connected to these guys, while letting guys like JuJu and Hardman walk?

What is the point if they jsut can't make it work at all? It not saying it gets done, but it clearly isn't something they don't think they can do either.
I'm sure they are interested....for a super cheap deal.

You know me, i never woulda argued this a week ago.

But as the days go by and more details emerge, the more i truly believe the Chiefs are perfectly comfortable rolling with Toney/Moore and some rookies if they can't land OBJ/Hopkins on the super cheap.

And i don't really think they can land them on the super cheap.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:22 PM   #1892
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:30 PM   #1893
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What would be wrong with a plan of drafting a WR in the 1st?

They're clearly in on OBJ AND Hopkins.
I really hope we do not spend a 1 on a WR.

Other than a bunch of rumors and likes on Twitter or IG there has not been any proof that we are in on OBJ or Hopkins.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:32 PM   #1894
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the more i truly believe the Chiefs are perfectly comfortable rolling with Toney/Moore and some rookies if they can't land OBJ/Hopkins on the super cheap.

And i don't really think they can land them on the super cheap.
If Toney/Moore are the Chiefs starters week 1, something went wrong.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:32 PM   #1895
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Same amount of cap space that we do.
The bills had to basically credit card the shit out of their cap with Allen and von Miller restructured just to stay afloat. The chiefs still have ability to flex mahomes restructure or extend Chris jones to free up space. So we’re sitting pretty good.
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I really hope we do not spend a 1 on a WR.

Other than a bunch of rumors and likes on Twitter or IG there has not been any proof that we are in on OBJ or Hopkins.
Exactly what proof are you looking for? That's kind of how news is talked about now.
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I really hope we do not spend a 1 on a WR.

Other than a bunch of rumors and likes on Twitter or IG there has not been any proof that we are in on OBJ or Hopkins.
So you HOPE to rely on Toney/Moore?

I think that may be the direction they go, but i sure AF ain't hoping for it.
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I'm sure they are interested....for a super cheap deal.

You know me, i never woulda argued this a week ago.

But as the days go by and more details emerge, the more i truly believe the Chiefs are perfectly comfortable rolling with Toney/Moore and some rookies if they can't land OBJ/Hopkins on the super cheap.

And i don't really think they can land them on the super cheap.
I don't think it's an either/or thing either way. They will add a solid vet and an early draft picks at worst.

Like I said, absolute worst case scenario is a Corey Davis type of signing combined with a Marvin Mims or Tyler Scott in the 2nd.

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Mims/Scott
Watson (still think he'll be back)

There might not be a bonafide WR1 in that group, but it's rock solid with depth and varying skills sets.
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I really hope we do not spend a 1 on a WR.

Other than a bunch of rumors and likes on Twitter or IG there has not been any proof that we are in on OBJ or Hopkins.


What other kind of "proof" is there?
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or extend Chris jones to free up space. So we’re sitting pretty good.
This shouldn't really even be in the conversation. We're talking about a blockbuster extension here. This extension isn't going to happen because the Chiefs are all of a sudden motivated to save on the cap.

We're talking like the most expensive and complicated extension the Chiefs will have to face over the next season or two can just be had like some casual cap savings move.

I wouldn't rely on that AT ALL.
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I guess I just don't understand the fear of letting a few young WRs grow with Mahomes either.

This defense is going to be really ****ing good, and the running game has been solved with Pacheco. We have the support system to win while the young guys at WR grow.
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This shouldn't really even be in the conversation. We're talking about a blockbuster extension here. This extension isn't going to happen because the Chiefs are all of a sudden motivated to save on the cap.

We're talking like the most expensive and complicated extension the Chiefs will have to face over the next season or two can just be had like some casual cap savings move.

I wouldn't rely on that AT ALL.
Like most of the big ones it will likely be around TC.
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I thought the Chiefs wouldn't give Mahomes the Rodgers treatment, but....i'm not so sure about that anymore.
It’s not the Rodgers treatment it’s the Bellicheck plan now being updated to the Veach plan to be competitive every year for a SB with an elite QB after their rookie contract ends.

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It’s not the Rodgers treatment it’s the Bellicheck plan now being updated to the Veach plan to be competitive every year for a SB with an elite QB.

Elite QB
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Thise team invested more at the WR position last year than Belichick has over several years.

That is not at all our philosophy.
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I guess I just don't understand the fear of letting a few young WRs grow with Mahomes either.
Well, when one of those guys is Skyy Moore and the other guy is supremely talented but always hurt, yeah there's gonna be a fear there.

I've been asking for young talent for awhile now so you're barking up the wrong tree with that one.

Like i said, i've resigned myself to the idea that the Chiefs may very well believe that Moore/Toney ARE the solution.

THAT's what you initially started arguing with me about.
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