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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:10 PM   #1877
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Do I want that? No. Of course not.

Im very much a, "give him every weapon you can" guy. I'm just not sure the Chiefs feel the same way, or they may feel that Moore/Toney ARE the weapons he needs.
So that'd mean the broken Rosses make the team...
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:10 PM   #1878
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Not sure what that's based off of or when Breer said it.
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Old 03-22-2023, 05:11 PM   #1879
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I never said, not once, that they'll do "nothing". Simple math suggests they have to do SOMETHING.

I'm leaning into the idea that they really do think Toney/Moore are the solution here, and the guys they add will be depth behind them.

I bring up the 0 TD WR season because it's an example of how Reid has settled for crumbs at the position before.
That was with ****ing Alex Smith.

Apples to oranges man.
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You're ignoring that they can create more space, and restructure with Hopkins.

Clearly nobody else is offering OBJ what he wants either. It's the market this year. It's not like everybody else is throwing 15 mil at OBJ while the Chiefs are lowballing him by 10 mil.
You're banking on a Chris Jones extension to do that. I think a Chris Jones extension is expensive and difficult so i wouldn't bet on that at all.

And restructuring Hopkins so his cap hit is even bigger next year when more, bigger bills come due? I'm not sure the Chiefs would be for that either.
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You wanted a first round wr? Ok that’s Toney

You wanted a 2nd rounder ? That’s moore

At some point you need them to play to that level
A we didn't use a 1 on Toney.
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You're banking on a Chris Jones extension to do that. I think a Chris Jones extension is expensive and difficult so i wouldn't bet on that at all.

And restructuring Hopkins so his cap hit is even bigger next year when more, bigger bills come due? I'm not sure the Chiefs would be for that either.
Couldn't they restructure his deal, take some of his base salary and convert it into a bonus and then either sign him to an extension...or cut him next year with that bonus being the only dead cap they would have for it though?
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You're banking on a Chris Jones extension to do that. I think a Chris Jones extension is expensive and difficult so i wouldn't bet on that at all.

And restructuring Hopkins so his cap hit is even bigger next year when more, bigger bills come due? I'm not sure the Chiefs would be for that either.
So why are there all these reports connecting the Chiefs to both Hopkins and OBJ dude?

If they can't make it work, why are the STILL connected to these guys, while letting guys like JuJu and Hardman walk?

What is the point if they just can't make it work at all? I'm not saying it gets done, but it clearly isn't something they don't think they can do either.
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You wanted a first round wr? Ok that’s Toney

You wanted a 2nd rounder ? That’s moore

At some point you need them to play to that level
Like i said before, if we knew we could get 20 games out of Toney we wouldn't be having this conversation.

But he's completed what, 1 season in his College/Pro life?

I mean, i'm a big Toney fan. I think he's a special rare talent. But i also think they need to treat him like McKinnon and use him strategically so we don't break him.
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A we didn't use a 1 on Toney.
That’s where he was drafted. Whatever I guess
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