Let's talk Defensive Line

[Couch-Potato]

Went through a bunch of threads to identify all of our interests across the defensive line, is this all of them? Who else should be added to the list? Removed from the list? Should anyone be moved up or down on the draft target list?

FA Targets
-DE Yannick Ngakoue, IND
-DT Da’ron Payne, WAS
-DT Poona Ford, SEA
-DE Jadaveon Clowney, CLV
-DT Kalen Saunders, KC
-DT Greg Gains, LAR
-DT Armon Watts, CHI
-DE Ardon Key, JAX
-DE Clean Ferril, LVR
-DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, HOU
-DT Chris Wormley, PIT
-DT Maurice Hurst, SF
-DT Andrew Billings, CIN

Vet Trade Targets
-DE Brian Burns, CAR
-DE Chase Young, WAS
-DE Carl Granderson, New Orleans
-DE Za'Darius Smith, Minnesota
-DE D.J. Wonnum, Minnesota

1st Rd Targets
-DT Byran Breese,
-DE Lukas Van Ness, Iowa
-DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
-DE Keion White, Georgia Tech
-DE Derick Hall, Auburn
-DE Isahiah Foskey, ND
-DE Nolan Smith, Georgia
-DL Tuli Tuipulotu, USC
-DE Andre Carter, Army

2nd Rd Targets
-DT Siaki Ika, BU
-DE Will McDonald IV, Iowa St.
-DL Calijah Kancey, Pitt
-DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
-DE Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State
-DT Mazi Smith, Michigan

3rd Rd Targets
-DT Gervon Dexter, Florida
-NT Keanu Benton, Wisconsin
-DE Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern
-DL Byron Young, Tennessee
-DT Zack Pickens, South Carolina
-DL Mike Morris, Michigan
-DE Dylan Horton, TCU

4th Rd Targets
-DT Byron Young, Alabama
-DE Viliami Fehoko, San Jose St
-DE Thomas Incoom, Central Michigan
-DL Yaya Diabi, Louisville
-DE Habakkuk Baldonado, Pitt

5th-7th Rd Targets
-DE Isaiah McGuire, Missouri
-DE Caleb Murphy, Ferris St
-DE Derek Parish, Houston
-DT Dante Stills, West Virginia
-NT Elijah Simmons, Tennessee

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

So... how bout Mazi Smith in the 1st?

He's not been talked about much, fits a need, got in a little trouble so he'll be there likely at the bottom of #1 but prob not the bottom of #2. What do you guys think of him playing next to CJ?

I'm not a big DT in the 1st type of guy unless he's a phenomenal talent and Mazi Smith is NOT a phenomenal player. I'd lean edge.

My shortlist at 31 at the edge is:

1. Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2. Derick Hall, Auburn
3. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State

As much as I like Keion White, I think he and Karlafatis are both best suited as LDEs. I want a bit more juice opposite George.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm not a big DT in the 1st type of guy unless he's a phenomenal talent and Mazi Smith is NOT a phenomenal player. I'd lean edge.

My shortlist at 31 at the edge is:

1. Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2. Derick Hall, Auburn
3. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State

As much as I like Keion White, I think he and Karlafatis are both best suited as LDEs. I want a bit more juice opposite George.

Are there any vets you'd prefer at DE that we could get with that 1st?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Are there any vets you'd prefer at DE that we could get with that 1st?

I don't really think so.

Look at your options:

Josh Allen, JAX
Rashan Gary, GB
Brian Burns, CAR
Montez Sweat, WAS
DJ Wonnum, MIN


I don't know who else to really put on the list... Burns is a star in the making, obviously, but with that comes a huge contract so no. I would take my chances on a rookie over Allen and Gary. Sweat and Wonnum are the most likely targets I'd have but man... I hate paying a 1st then paying a guy. Not sure if I'd pay a 1 for Wonnum for sure but I do like him alot. If I did it, it'd be for Sweat.

[kccrow]

Piggy-backing off what I just said, I'd most love to send Washington a 2nd this year and 1st in 2024 for Sweat. Kind of the flip-flop of the trade we had for Clark.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm not a big DT in the 1st type of guy unless he's a phenomenal talent and Mazi Smith is NOT a phenomenal player. I'd lean edge.

My shortlist at 31 at the edge is:

1. Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2. Derick Hall, Auburn
3. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State

As much as I like Keion White, I think he and Karlafatis are both best suited as LDEs. I want a bit more juice opposite George.

I agree with your top 3 there completely. And I'd still add Andre Carter, as more of a second rounder type.

[GloucesterChief]

So with the D line currently looking like:

DE: Karlaftis, Omenihu, Danna, Kaindoh, Herring
DT: Jones, Wharton, Omenihu (sometimes)

I am thinking DE is less a priority now then DT.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

So with the D line currently looking like:

DE: Karlaftis, Omenihu, Danna, Kaindoh, Herring
DT: Jones, Wharton, Omenihu (sometimes)

I am thinking DE is less a priority now then DT.

Came here to ask the same basically.

Is Omenihu our new starter at DE then? or is he a rotational guy? Doesn't seem like the fast-bendy guy many fans are hoping for opposite of George, am I wrong? Unclear.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Came here to ask the same basically.

Is Omenihu our new starter at DE then? or is he a rotational guy? Doesn't seem like the fast-bendy guy many fans are hoping for opposite of George, am I wrong? Unclear.

He's getting paid to be, IMO. At the very least he's going to be heavily used in the rotation, both inside and out.

I really, really like that signing.

If they can get Gaines I'd do jumping jacks. I'm too fat to do them but I'd figure it out.

I'd like to see Agholor or Campbell at WR to be honest. These big names are overdoing it IMO.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He's getting paid to be, IMO. At the very least he's going to be heavily used in the rotation, both inside and out.

I really, really like that signing.

If they can get Gaines I'd do jumping jacks. I'm too fat to do them but I'd figure it out.

I'd like to see Agholor or Campbell at WR to be honest. These big names are overdoing it IMO.

Someone in the other thread suggested he'd start at DE and move inside on passing downs, and that we're prob still looking for a fast pass rushing specialist at DE in the draft. I think that feels about right to me.

I like the signings so far, wish we hadn't struck out on Tunsil, we're signing guys at quality contracts, younger ascending players, and we prob have room for another high caliber addition or two.

[staylor26]

Omenihu plays early downs at DE, then slides inside and Will McDonald comes in on passing downs. Then we wreck shit.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'd like to see Agholor or Campbell at WR to be honest. These big names are overdoing it IMO.

Careful. They'll pile on you for that.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Omenihu plays early downs at DE, then slides inside and Will McDonald comes in on passing downs. Then we wreck shit.

Would be pretty hyped for this scenario

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't really think so.

Look at your options:

Josh Allen, JAX
Rashan Gary, GB
Brian Burns, CAR
Montez Sweat, WAS
DJ Wonnum, MIN


I don't know who else to really put on the list... Burns is a star in the making, obviously, but with that comes a huge contract so no. I would take my chances on a rookie over Allen and Gary. Sweat and Wonnum are the most likely targets I'd have but man... I hate paying a 1st then paying a guy. Not sure if I'd pay a 1 for Wonnum for sure but I do like him alot. If I did it, it'd be for Sweat.

A move for Burns would be awesome, I'm game! Adding another star caliber player to our DL with CJ would give teams fits!

[Couch-Potato]

Why not Clowney? CP never seems to have any interest in him, but kid has potential if we can manage his ego. Not very expensive either, could play Ingram's role.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Why not Clowney? CP never seems to have any interest in him, but kid has potential if we can manage his ego. Not very expensive either, could play Ingram's role.

It'll be interesting to see his value. What did he get last year? $10m? Year older, leaving with a bit of bad blood. Gotta think he's getting max $8-9m? But honestly I might just see what Ingram wants. He's probably even cheaper, and I think he has more as a pass rusher