Chiefs Do we want DeHop? - Page 45

ROYC75 · 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9536dcd3&ei=21

Story by Andrew Gould

The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?

**Easy 6** · 03-05-2023, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Kccrow vs Twisted is very random to me. Usually I see crow giving in detailed about the draft so I was surprised to see him going in on someone in this thread. I assumed it was one of the usual suspects but nope it was TwistedChief who's also a pretty laid back poster like crow.

Very ****ing random

This place spawns some of the weirdest fights

BleedingRed · 03-05-2023, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

This place spawns some of the weirdest fights

**** you

**Easy 6** · 03-05-2023, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

**** you

You're the poster boy for resting bitch face!11

**Bowser** · 03-05-2023, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

**** you

**Easy 6** · 03-05-2023, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

BleedingRed · 03-05-2023, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

BRING IT

Sassy Squatch · 03-05-2023, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Kccrow vs Twisted is very random to me. Usually I see crow giving in detailed about the draft so I was surprised to see him going in on someone in this thread. I assumed it was one of the usual suspects but nope it was TwistedChief who's also a pretty laid back poster like crow.

Very ****ing random

It's not random at all if you know what started it.

Chris Meck · 03-05-2023, 04:03 PM

I'd rather sign Paris Campbell, who's 25, with 4.3 speed after letting Juju walk. He'll be about half what Hopkins wants and has a ton of upside. A four year deal, spread the cap hit out, and it'll still make sense when he's 29.

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2023, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

BRING IT

**Easy 6** · 03-05-2023, 04:23 PM

They'll show up to fight, only to find Titty Meat there just waiting to whip ALL their asses

**Bowser** · 03-05-2023, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

They'll show up to fight, only to find Titty Meat there just waiting to ~~whip~~ defile ALL their asses

That ain't no lie....

BleedingRed · 03-05-2023, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

They'll show up to fight, only to find Titty Meat there just waiting to whip ALL their asses

Yeah well soon as he jumps in my boy Detox is going to bring the people elbow to his face

**chiefforlife** · 03-05-2023, 04:55 PM

I have seen numbers for Juju projecting 18/year.

Juju is injured often AND has a chronic knee condition.

Signing him to a 3 or 4 year deal at 18 per is risky and expensive. There will be guaranteed money in that contract as well, yikes.

D Hop is on a two year deal at 19 then 14, no guarantees. NO Where has there been a quote or response from him or his management that he would demand a new contract. He wants OUT of AZ.

AZ is asking for a 2 (starting point). If you could obtain D Hop for a 3 or less (very possible) and he would be less than Juju for two years.

In this case, YES! This would be a huge win for Veach, Mahomes, Andy and the team. To acquire a talent like Hopkins for a below market deal is a GREAT move. It improves the offense/WR room with a savy veteran that could help with all the young WRs. Hopkins doesnt rely on speed to win so his knowledge would be valuable. He is still a TOP WR in the league and would be an immediate upgrade!

Now, if that is NOT the deal and it takes a second rounder, and/or a new contract then NO. It would not be worth it.

Abba-Dabba · 03-05-2023, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I have seen numbers for Juju projecting 18/year.

Juju is injured often AND has a chronic knee condition.

Signing him to a 3 or 4 year deal at 18 per is risky and expensive. There will be guaranteed money in that contract as well, yikes.

D Hop is on a two year deal at 19 then 14, no guarantees. NO Where has there been a quote or response from him or his management that he would demand a new contract. He wants OUT of AZ.

AZ is asking for a 2 (starting point). If you could obtain D Hop for a 3 or less (very possible) and he would be less than Juju for two years.

In this case, YES! This would be a huge win for Veach, Mahomes, Andy and the team. To acquire a talent like Hopkins for a below market deal is a GREAT move. It improves the offense/WR room with a savy veteran that could help with all the young WRs. Hopkins doesnt rely on speed to win so his knowledge would be valuable. He is still a TOP WR in the league and would be an immediate upgrade!

Now, if that is NOT the deal and it takes a second rounder, and/or a new contract then NO. It would not be worth it.

You may be hearing some wrong numbers.

The last numbers I saw of his market value was 14.6.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c.../market-value/

2/24-26 I would jump on in a heartbeat. 1-2 million more per year than MVS which seems appropriate to me.

A 2 year deal makes sense for both parties as well. It gives JuJu a chance to continue to build a body of work and have another pay day before he is 30 when the salary cap is even higher. And let's be honest here, both MVS and JuJu, if resigned need to be gone in no more than 2 years as younger guys develop.

kccrow · 03-06-2023, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

This is exactly the type of response I'd expect from a science-denying rape apologist.

Your imaginary Australian friends would be ashamed if they knew the depths of your depravity.

(P.S. - I am entirely indifferent to your entire existence.)

I was correct about Matt Araiza. You weren't.

I do have Australian friends. You don't.

You're one of the dumbest ****ers on this board. I'm not.

It's really that simple.

03-01-2023, 01:21 PM
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2327400	Do we want DeHop? https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9536dcd3&ei=21 Story by Andrew Gould The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins. NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first. After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason. Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June. Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy. Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season. Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling. Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Do we want a high priced prima donna?
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chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	I have seen numbers for Juju projecting 18/year. Juju is injured often AND has a chronic knee condition. Signing him to a 3 or 4 year deal at 18 per is risky and expensive. There will be guaranteed money in that contract as well, yikes. D Hop is on a two year deal at 19 then 14, no guarantees. NO Where has there been a quote or response from him or his management that he would demand a new contract. He wants OUT of AZ. AZ is asking for a 2 (starting point). If you could obtain D Hop for a 3 or less (very possible) and he would be less than Juju for two years. In this case, YES! This would be a huge win for Veach, Mahomes, Andy and the team. To acquire a talent like Hopkins for a below market deal is a GREAT move. It improves the offense/WR room with a savy veteran that could help with all the young WRs. Hopkins doesnt rely on speed to win so his knowledge would be valuable. He is still a TOP WR in the league and would be an immediate upgrade! Now, if that is NOT the deal and it takes a second rounder, and/or a new contract then NO. It would not be worth it.
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