Do we want DeHop?

[ROYC75]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9536dcd3&ei=21


Story by Andrew Gould




The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

Still waiting for you to show me where anyone said the BS you made up....I won't hold my breath.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

I hope we trade for this piece of shit and he throws up 1400 yards and 14 tudders.

The crybabies here will change their tune about “tWeNtY MiLlIoN dOlLaRs aNd A dRaFt PiCk ThAt CoUlD hAvE bEeN mEcOlE hArDmAn”

Or skyy moore

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Balto

It’s funny how mad Abba is getting. I personally consider Moss the GOAT even over Rice and I’ve never compared Moss to Hopkins. If you look back Abba, I was saying the NFL script writers are repeating themselves haha. Moss killed it in Minny, traded to Raiders and it didn’t work out, then traded to the Pats and cemented his HOF career.

Hopkins killed it in Houston, traded to the Cards and it hasn’t worked out, then he will be traded at the same age Moss was and it could be to the Chiefs(current NFL Pats) and would hopefully get Mahomes that undefeated season…

BUT if you wanna talk numbers. At the same age, Hopkins has better numbers in everything expect TDs which Moss is the king. All other numbers Hopkins is better than Moss at both age 30 and pre Pats for Moss.

What?

Hopkins has 11,298 yards. Moss at the same age had 12,627 yards. Last time I checked that's Moss + 1,329 yards.

Hopkins has 853 receptions. Moss had 802.

Hopkins has 71 TDs. Moss had 127.

So outside of receptions, Moss had him beaten significantly in every other category.

To note, I'm not trying to take anything from D-Hop, he's a good WR. I think if the draft compensation were the same as the Moss trade to New England, I'd be on board with it. I'm not on board for a 2nd round pick.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

I hope we trade for this piece of shit and he throws up 1400 yards and 14 tudders.

The crybabies here will change their tune about “tWeNtY MiLlIoN dOlLaRs aNd A dRaFt PiCk ThAt CoUlD hAvE bEeN mEcOlE hArDmAn”

I've maintained all along that I trust Bert to make the right decision for the team. If that's trading for Hopkins, so be it.

If, OTOH, he'd prefer to invest that capital in a Jalin Hyatt (or whomever), then I'll take that as well. This is a DEEP draft and we're well-armed.

Not sure why anyone would be crying either way.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by kccrow

What?

Hopkins has 11,298 yards. Moss at the same age had 12,627 yards. Last time I checked that's Moss + 1,329 yards.

Hopkins has 853 receptions. Moss had 802.

Hopkins has 71 TDs. Moss had 127.

So outside of receptions, Moss had him beaten significantly in every other category.

To note, I'm not trying to take anything from D-Hop, he's a good WR. I think if the draft compensation were the same as the Moss trade to New England, I'd be on board with it. I'm not on board for a 2nd round pick.

Would you trade Skyy Moore for Dhop straight up?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Would you trade Skyy Moore for Dhop straight up?

No, I wouldn't.

Would you bring in D-Hop to replace Hardman's role?

Probably not. Why would you take away the guy that was brought in to do exactly that?

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by kccrow

No, I wouldn't.

Would you bring in D-Hop to replace Hardman's role?

Probably not. Why would you take away the guy that was brought in to do exactly that?

I think we might have Toney for that role…

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I've maintained all along that I trust Bert to make the right decision for the team. If that's trading for Hopkins, so be it.

If, OTOH, he'd prefer to invest that capital in a Jalin Hyatt (or whomever), then I'll take that as well. This is a DEEP draft and we're well-armed.

Not sure why anyone would be crying either way.

Im with you.

There seems to be some posters here that would be mad about the move.

I dont care one way or another, i trust veach will make the right decision.

I dont like people acting like Dhop is some shitty hasbeen that wouldnt be worth the investment.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Who is crying?
Do you have a problem working the keyboard correctly?

You said he was looking for a raise in guarantees and base salary.

I replied that 20m guaranteed per year would be a raise against his zero guaranteed base salaries of 19m and 14m the next two seasons.

I dont know what the **** you would like me to prove

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I think we might have Toney for that role…

I don't think so, but we can agree to disagree on that.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

Im with you.

There seems to be some posters here that would be mad about the move.

I dont care one way or another, i trust veach will make the right decision.

I dont like people acting like Dhop is some shitty hasbeen that wouldnt be worth the investment.

Lol, just wait.

In a week or so DHop will be injury-prone on a level worse than Sammy ever was. Despite the fact that DHop has had just one serious injury in his entire career, he'll be branded a leper, or worse And he didn't reinjure that knee this season, but had an MCL tear (not nearly as serious), that's already been repaired and the expectation is that he'll be fully functional in about two months.

But CP will have him getting the knee amputated before April. And his collarbone will fall off.

Around May, DHop will be the inventor of COVID. With a pegleg and a missing collarbone.

The offseason is fun!

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't think so, but we can agree to disagree on that.

Yeah, i dont think hardmans role is what toney projects as.

I do think that hardmans role is easily replaced with any burner in the draft/free agency.


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[Megatron96]

Toney can do several of the things that Hardman has done, just not everything. Anything that has to do with sheer top speed isn't really Toney's thing. But that could be replaced in the draft, and many if not most of the WRs the Chiefs have a realistic shot at just happen to be those speed merchant type WRs.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Toney can do several of the things that Hardman has done, just not everything. Anything that has to do with sheer top speed isn't really Toney's thing. But that could be replaced in the draft, and many if not most of the WRs the Chiefs have a realistic shot at just happen to be those speed merchant type WRs.

Yeah, I honestly dont think hardmans contributions would be that difficult to replace in the mid rounds of the draft.


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[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

Yeah, I honestly dont think hardmans contributions would be that difficult to replace in the mid rounds of the draft.


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Probably. And I like Mecole. Wanted to keep him through 2023. But at the end of the day, he's got one elite talent, and that's speed. Everything else is average to good. And there's no shortage of those kinds of WRs in the draft. At this point, it probably isn't financially prudent to spend more on Hardman.