Do we want DeHop?

[ROYC75]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9536dcd3&ei=21


Story by Andrew Gould




The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Do we want a high priced prima donna?

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Whens the last time he had a WR that was great at it

It hasn't been necessary. It's not a missing piece to our offense. Mahomes is too good at throwing people open to have to throw up a bunch of 50/50 balls.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

We are watching the player. KT still had a better yards per game average in 2021 than OBJ and it was his rookie year with Daniel Jones shitting his pants. Don't be fooled by OBJ looking good for a few plays in the Super Bowl. Dude is cooked and coming off his second devastating knee injury.

No, i don't think you are watching the player. I don't know how you could watch this and not see:

Great speed
Great movement ability
Natural, great hands.

You can't possibly look at this and then look at Hopkins and say that OBJ doesn't bring more to the table physically.

OBJ was on a shit Browns team with a shit QB that people didn't want to accept was shit, then gets traded mid season by a Rams team who slowly worked him in through out the season.

IF you want to argue about his health and availability, sure. But the man can flat out ball when he's on the field.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

But what's the point if he isn't going to play?

Why are we assuming he won't? He'll have had ample time to heal.

[Megatron96]

The primary reason to bring in a guy like DH is not for jump balls. It's just a great bonus.

The reason to bring him in is the ability to consistently beat press man, something JJSS isn't great at, neither is MVS. Basically, we have Kelce and Toney for that, and we're not sure Toney will be able to stay healthy for the entire season. So that leaves Kelce. Again.

Whether it's OBJ or DH, both are great man-beaters. And let's remember that last season teams played press man against KC far more often than they have since 2018. And the best secondaries were able to stall our offense doing it.

Secondly, Pat is far better at beating zones, and our receivers are as well. Getting one of these guys or someone like them, and Andy can force them out of man back into zone, and Pat feasts, and we win another SB.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Why are we assuming he won't? He'll have had ample time to heal.

Isn't he coming off his second or third knee surgery to the same knee?

DH has had one knee surgery, and based on what I saw him doing this season in person, he's recovered.

[Danguardace]

I'd be happy with it, only because you won the Superbowl with a Mid WR room no guarantee you can do it again. Let Pat Cook

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Isn't he coming off his second or third knee surgery to the same knee?

DH has had one knee surgery, and based on what I saw him doing this season in person, he's recovered.

More on Odell Beckham’s first ACL surgery in 2020: The procedure, which was performed by a non-team affiliated doc, led to a rehab that took longer than expected while Beckham was training in AZ. Some wondered if he wasn’t working hard enough. Turns out, just not a great surgery. https://t.co/6g7iLd4laa

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 13, 2022

After he re-tore his ACL in the Super Bowl, Rams team doctors performed a much more successful surgery that Rapoport says is likely to extend the receiver's career.

[ToxSocks]

Fuggit, draft Hyatt AND sign OBJ.

OBJ
MVS
Toney
Hyatt
Moore

....commence fapperations. My god, that'd be a scary receiver room.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Hopkins is going into the HOF, OBJ is not...

Who cares about HOF? Our only concern is " How can you help us now" !

That's how I see it, I'm sure BV does too! Who can best help us retain our offense or even be better than last year!

[Hammock Parties]

we're moving all our chips in this offseason to go back to back

build a super team

[Balto]

All this talk about Hopkins and OBJ I think Veach could throw a curve ball and go after DJ Moore from the Panthers. Fits what Veach typically goes after and could be a perfect match for the offense.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

No, i don't think you are watching the player. I don't know how you could watch this and not see:

Great speed
Great movement ability
Natural, great hands.

You can't possibly look at this and then look at Hopkins and say that OBJ doesn't bring more to the table physically.

OBJ was on a shit Browns team with a shit QB that people didn't want to accept was shit, then gets traded mid season by a Rams team who slowly worked him in through out the season.

IF you want to argue about his health and availability, sure. But the man can flat out ball when he's on the field.

There's nothing in that video that Hopkins can't do still today. You cannot say that about Beckham. Hell, we don't even know if he is going to play this season. His knee could be completely messed up.

[SuperBowl4]

no thanks

[Chris Meck]

Reerun'd.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

There's nothing in that video that Hopkins can't do still today. You cannot say that about Beckham. Hell, we don't even know if he is going to play this season. His knee could be completely messed up.

Except run like that. OBJ is visibly a faster and twitchier player.

And yet still offers the same level of hands and route running. BUT DOESN'T COST DRAFT PICKS.

And his knee would have to be evaluated and green lit. That kinda goes w/o saying, doesn't it.

And again, the Chiefs could negotiate with OBJ on their terms. They don't have to trade picks for a guy and then get held hostage for a change in contract demands.