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Old 02-21-2023, 05:51 PM  
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So when do people stop going out to eat?

I have a customer who owns 5 Mexican Food Cafes here in the Phoenix area. The past few years we've reprinted their menus 6 times...always to accommodate higher prices. Their typical cost now is about $18.00 per entree...Mexican food.

On a personal note I stopped by a McDonald's today and paid $4.96 for a large order of fries. There's got to be a breaking point for most folks.
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Old 02-26-2023, 10:12 AM   #526
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Old 02-26-2023, 12:13 PM   #527
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Well maybe I did misunderstand. I thought you were saying just because they were quick to eat. I didn't see you say anything about being less filling.

And certainly at some level it comes down to calories in versus calories out and if someone is eating too much they should cut back.

But this can still be simplistic. For instance, an overweight, middle age person might cut their calorie intake by 100 calories a day and their body might respond by burning 100 less calories just while doing things like sitting in a chair...

Once a body has accustomed to a higher weight it can fight weight loss by slowing down the resting metabolism.

So reducing the calories in can reduce the calories out. No, it isn't always that simple for everybody but trying to reduce it to simple phrases isn't really accurate either.
But that's still calories in vs calories out. I don't think anyone is claiming that your calories out will always stay the same. All kinds of things will modify calories out in both directions. It's up to the human to be smart enough to continually adjust calories in.

Aldo, for what it's worth, people generally conflate leaneness and weight with overall health. However, if you are eating only three donuts a day, you might lose plenty of weight but your health will shit. It's all a big balancing act.
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Old 02-26-2023, 12:28 PM   #528
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But that's still calories in vs calories out. I don't think anyone is claiming that your calories out will always stay the same. All kinds of things will modify calories out in both directions. It's up to the human to be smart enough to continually adjust calories in.

Aldo, for what it's worth, people generally conflate leaneness and weight with overall health. However, if you are eating only three donuts a day, you might lose plenty of weight but your health will shit. It's all a big balancing act.
For sure. I didn’t want to be a douche to anyone on the board who struggles with their weight, but you generally only hear that “it’s not that simple” from people who struggle with their weight. It’s an excuse. Unless your body ignores the laws of thermodynamics or some shit, you’re probably just underestimating the amount of calories you’re taking in and/or overestimating how many calories you’re burning.

And, yeah, I would not recommend anyone try a diet of only donuts lol I just wanted to make a point
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Old 02-26-2023, 01:39 PM   #529
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Old 02-26-2023, 01:59 PM   #530
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I’m not sure who in particular this is directed toward, but I imagine it’s not me because I am not saying there is only one way. I’m actually saying there are many ways to do it, but ultimately they all boil down to calories in/calories out.

Going low carb, high protein, intermittent fasting, paleo, etc., the idea at the end of the day is to restrict you calories so that you’re burning more than you’re taking in.
He's super sensitive to stuff on this board.

Just don't tell him that, because... well, he's super sensitive.
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Old 02-26-2023, 02:07 PM   #531
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But that's still calories in vs calories out. I don't think anyone is claiming that your calories out will always stay the same. All kinds of things will modify calories out in both directions. It's up to the human to be smart enough to continually adjust calories in.

Aldo, for what it's worth, people generally conflate leaneness and weight with overall health. However, if you are eating only three donuts a day, you might lose plenty of weight but your health will shit. It's all a big balancing act.
I go back and forth with it, because thee are studies out there on how some people do far better on keto diets and others do far better on higher-carb diets... plus the body adjusting metabolism a bit as you mentioned.

And as someone who's tried to trim down the beer gut from time to time, I know how easy it is to underestimate calories in if you aren't anal about counting calories... but I think there's also some truth to it not being simple either.
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Old 02-26-2023, 02:29 PM   #532
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I’m not sure who in particular this is directed toward, but I imagine it’s not me because I am not saying there is only one way. I’m actually saying there are many ways to do it, but ultimately they all boil down to calories in/calories out.

Going low carb, high protein, intermittent fasting, paleo, etc., the idea at the end of the day is to restrict you calories so that you’re burning more than you’re taking in.



I didn’t say “less filling” but that was my aim with the chips and soda talk. You can sit down with a bag of Doritos and a Coke and 15 minutes later you’ve taken in 500 calories but you’re still hungry- because that processed crap is super high cal but not filling. On top of all that, processed foods are more likely to cause cancer. It’s basically the worst combination of shit you can eat.
I'm on your side here, guess that didn't come across

I stopped talking fitness and nutrition a long time ago, because most people are super entrenched in their positions to the point of being dicks about it
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Just don't tell him that, because... well, he's super sensitive.
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I have a customer who owns 5 Mexican Food Cafes here in the Phoenix area. The past few years we've reprinted their menus 6 times...always to accommodate higher prices. Their typical cost now is about $18.00 per entree...Mexican food.

On a personal note I stopped by a McDonald's today and paid $4.96 for a large order of fries. There's got to be a breaking point for most folks.
People will stop going out to eat when the wife insists you stay home and eat her. Hey, what can I say. I just had a sudden urge to act like I was in middle school.
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I stopped talking fitness and nutrition a long time ago, because most people are super entrenched in their positions to the point of being dicks about it
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