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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 05-09-2022, 12:38 PM   #12721
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The revolving number that I freaked out about wouldn’t. Except for maybe a HELOC.
For sure. A 21% surge in credit card debt and the like is pretty concerning.
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Old 05-09-2022, 01:24 PM   #12722
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Old 05-09-2022, 01:30 PM   #12723
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Real estate is another domino that will fall I imagine. Doesn't matter what the supply is like when your average pool of buyers can barely afford milk and eggs let alone deal with the rising rates on mortgages.

Demand is going to start dwindling.
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Old 05-09-2022, 02:37 PM   #12724
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Old 05-09-2022, 04:14 PM   #12725
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I have a stuped question for the smart people here. My long term portfolio is bleeding just like everyone elses. The stocks I have are mixed , mutual funds , ETF's , tech stocks etc...

Would it be smart , right now, to go ahead and harvest for taxes and move to index funds. We know it ALWAYS goes back up. But the implication of tax harvesting is a real thing that can put money back in your pocket.

Even if you're say bag holding NFLX and just move that money over too AAPL wouldn't it benefit a person best to do that???? You're claimin the loss and getting in AAPL at a great entry.
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Old 05-09-2022, 04:28 PM   #12726
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I have a stuped question for the smart people here. My long term portfolio is bleeding just like everyone elses. The stocks I have are mixed , mutual funds , ETF's , tech stocks etc...

Would it be smart , right now, to go ahead and harvest for taxes and move to index funds. We know it ALWAYS goes back up. But the implication of tax harvesting is a real thing that can put money back in your pocket.

Even if you're say bag holding NFLX and just move that money over too AAPL wouldn't it benefit a person best to do that???? You're claimin the loss and getting in AAPL at a great entry.
I never like to think about this question. My general thinking is that it's always going to be better to sell higher because I'd rather pay 15 percent of a gain than take a loss But maybe if you're wanting to sell some stuff that's still up from where you bought it, it's a good time to sell some stuff where you're losing money and offset that tax hit.

But overall, I'd rather sell everything at a gain.
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Old 05-09-2022, 04:47 PM   #12727
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My thought is , if you have a stock at a loss and you're in the 24% tax bracket and expect to have to pay taxes at the end of the year and you have a $1000 loss. You can sell that and reduce your taxable income by 1K and eliminate $240 in taxes.

Therefore claiming an immediate 24% gain.

Stocks that you've been averaging in over time may have certain "LOTS" you can eliminate at a loss even though you are up in the stock. Take it over to another stock and get in the low.

I would also like to sell everything while its up but everythings not up.

BTW , I only asked for people smarter than me to chime in , I should have included dumb people smarter than me. Apologies.
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Old 05-09-2022, 05:00 PM   #12728
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My thought is , if you have a stock at a loss and you're in the 24% tax bracket and expect to have to pay taxes at the end of the year and you have a $1000 loss. You can sell that and reduce your taxable income by 1K and eliminate $240 in taxes.

Therefore claiming an immediate 24% gain.

Stocks that you've been averaging in over time may have certain "LOTS" you can eliminate at a loss even though you are up in the stock. Take it over to another stock and get in the low.

I would also like to sell everything while its up but everythings not up.

BTW , I only asked for people smarter than me to chime in , I should have included dumb people smarter than me. Apologies.

My error. I should not have responded.
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Old 05-09-2022, 05:21 PM   #12729
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My error. I should not have responded.
LOl. I consider myself a dumbass . You're waaaay smarter than me. That comment was not directed at you . I was just sayin. Sometimes I try to be funny and it comes out wrong.
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Old 05-09-2022, 05:55 PM   #12730
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I have a stuped question for the smart people here. My long term portfolio is bleeding just like everyone elses. The stocks I have are mixed , mutual funds , ETF's , tech stocks etc...

Would it be smart , right now, to go ahead and harvest for taxes and move to index funds. We know it ALWAYS goes back up. But the implication of tax harvesting is a real thing that can put money back in your pocket.

Even if you're say bag holding NFLX and just move that money over too AAPL wouldn't it benefit a person best to do that???? You're claimin the loss and getting in AAPL at a great entry.
Philosophically, I've never been in favor of letting tax strategy guide investment strategy.

That being said, if you want out of Netflix or whatever, GTFO and if it's at a loss, fine.
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Old 05-09-2022, 07:37 PM   #12731
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Old 05-09-2022, 09:16 PM   #12732
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RIVN - Rivian Automotive INC.

Ive been seriously considering investing in this company since it went public. Of course it immediately opened up about 29 and went up as high as 179.46. These EV stocks are crazy like that so I tend to let them settle before considering investing. NKLA was the first one I really wanted to invest in, boy did I dodge a bullet there.

Ive watched many of these EV companies, some suggested in this forum, NIO, LCID, NKLA, GOEV and of course TSLA. Only one, TSLA have I regretted not investing in. Looking at that list makes me think why do I want to jump into this sector at all?

The one company I feel good about is RIVN. They actually are manufacturing and selling their vehicles. A truck and an SUV. I would actually buy one of their Trucks after looking into it.

I am a full size pickup man and although this is not a full size its not a mini truck either. Its a good looking truck, other than the front end. Wish they would have designed the front more like the rest of the truck.

The stock is back down close to opening value, its much better looking than the ridiculous Tesla Cybertruck. Its still pricey but I do think it will be popular and capture a fair percentage of the EV truck and SUV market.

If you are an investor, how do you feel about this stock?
If you are a pickup owner or want to be, would you consider buying one of these?

https://rivian.com/r1t


Ford was one of their early investors, and they are selling 8 million of their 102 million shares. The stock reached an all time low because of that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/09/rivi...-start-up.html
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AMC sub $10 could be fun!

Hopefully MTG hasn’t slit his wrists losing all those paper gains.
I'm sure he has done a half dozen swing trades with perfect timing to make another million bucks off of it.

Clay's actually the one I worry about. (I've been convinced MTG is full of shit for months.) But sadly Clay is not only banned from the thread, he's banned from the Lounge for a few more weeks.
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Hopefully MTG hasn’t slit his wrists losing all those paper gains.

Down 59 percent so far this year.

(Checks portfolio.)

I wish I owned it instead of HCAT and PYPL and NVAX.
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