George Karlaftis

[kccrow]

I can't stop fixating on this guy in the first round. The more I see him in the early 20's in mocks, the more I want KC to make the deal to go get this kid.

He reminds me of Ryan Kerrigan and Justin Smith. If he's somewhere in between, he'd be well worth a 20-ish pick. I just like his game. Great power in his punch. Good hand usage. Alot of moves but a staggering bull rush. Great feet. Excellent burst off the snap. What he doesn't have is great bend and agility which negates his speed rush.

But those traits, the ones involving power and speed-to-power, those win in the NFL. I don't care about his 40 time. He ran faster than the Bosa brothers. It's fine. He has elite vertical and broad jumps and a respectable bench press. I just imagine the day he gets stronger, and he will. If he learns to use better power rush technique, he's going to be very solid.

I think a lot of the lack of sacks this past year was the volume of double-teams and no other real threat on Purdue's defense. You watch his games though and he's putting tackles in the dirt. He's getting hits on the QB. He had a solid win rate as a pass rusher.

I love this guy as a SDE prospect. I want him to be a Chief. If you can go out and get a Sam Williams in the 2nd to pair with this guy as a bendier, more athletic WDE, I think you'll have an incredible pair of bookends for the foreseeable future.

So, am I missing something? Do I not see some fatal flaw?

[RunKC]

I projected a trade like that for awhile but I believe it will take a 3rd, 4th and likely a later day 3 pick.

But I don’t think Karlaftis or Johnson will be there so I wonder who that would be for?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I projected a trade like that for awhile but I believe it will take a 3rd, 4th and likely a later day 3 pick.

But I don’t think Karlaftis or Johnson will be there so I wonder who that would be for?

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[O.city]

If Karlaftis falls I'd love to take him. Not sure about trading up for him though.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Karlaftis falls I'd love to take him. Not sure about trading up for him though.

I'm not trading any more than a 3rd for anybody. Those 1st and 2nd round picks are way too valuable.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nate Taylor has us using a 3rd to move up from 29 to 21 w/ the Patriots pick.

I can get behind that. For Karlaftis or Williams or whoever. If the guy they want is sitting there at 21 and all it costs them is a 3rd to get there, I'm game.

That's the first suggested trade-up that I can stomach.

(Then he goes and blows the rest of the mock by taking Boye Mafe at 30, which is just a bad pick, IMO. Still don't know how you take a 24 yr old rookie w/ productivity and polish issues that high)

He’s also missing our 4th round pick from the Dolphins.

I like double dipping on DE but Mafe and Drake Jackson aren’t it.

He did take your boy Dulcich.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I projected a trade like that for awhile but I believe it will take a 3rd, 4th and likely a later day 3 pick.

But I don’t think Karlaftis or Johnson will be there so I wonder who that would be for?

Yeah, I think Taylor was being generous there.

Let's say Williams is available. The Packers are one spot away from that pick and would presumably be willing to 'block' us there. IF you're the Patriots and the Chiefs are on the phone offering a 3rd, you call the Packers and say 'hey, I'm moving out of this spot unless you give me a 3rd to move up 1..."

And the Packers probably make that deal. If you're the Chiefs, you're likely gonna have to 'lose' the trade by the draft charts to get up there.

And that's where I start saying no-dice.

I just want the draft to get here already, dammit. I'm tired of jerking off.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not trading any more than a 3rd for anybody. Those 1st and 2nd round picks are way too valuable.

If they hit, sure.

Those end of the first picks just aren't as valuable as we all want them to be. IF you can package them somehow to go up and get an impact player, do it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I think Taylor was being generous there.

Let's say Williams is available. The Packers are one spot away from that pick and would presumably be willing to 'block' us there. IF you're the Patriots and the Chiefs are on the phone offering a 3rd, you call the Packers and say 'hey, I'm moving out of this spot unless you give me a 3rd to move up 1..."

And the Packers probably make that deal. If you're the Chiefs, you're likely gonna have to 'lose' the trade by the draft charts to get up there.

And that's where I start saying no-dice.

I just want the draft to get here already, dammit. I'm tired of jerking off.

Same here.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

If they hit, sure.

Those end of the first picks just aren't as valuable as we all want them to be. IF you can package them somehow to go up and get an impact player, do it.

Just stop.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just stop.

Besides the fifth year option, is there a difference in the player taken at 29 or 30 and the guy taken at 45-50 in a normal draft year?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

He’s also missing our 4th round pick from the Dolphins.

I like double dipping on DE but Mafe and Drake Jackson aren’t it.

He did take your boy Dulcich.

Yeah, for the same reasons I like Dulcich as well.

I wish I knew who he had on his board around those picks. I just cannot see a scenario where Mafe and Jackson are the 'right' gets there.

I will say that he's pretty tuned into what the Chiefs like and so are some of the other podcast guys - they have sources here and there. And to see Mafe and Logan Hall so routinely noted as possible early picks makes me really nervous.

I mean I don't hate either of those guys, but those are late 2nd, early 3rd guys to me. And when someone with a finger on the pulse of the organization suggests that they are really strong considerations....man, I hope that's just a media echo chamber where those guys sit around and talk themselves into the same handful of dudes (y'know, kinda like the CP draft forum) and not a line they're getting from the front office.

And NOBODY is talking Sam Williams to the Chiefs. And that gives me a sad.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Besides the fifth year option, is there a difference in the player taken at 29 or 30 and the guy taken at 45-50 in a normal draft year?

That's the problem - this isn't a normal draft year. You keep ignoring that fact.

[O.city]

I know and understand you draftniks wanna sit tight and make all those picks and hit on all those draft picks.

I don't think the Chiefs will and or feel the same.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's the problem - this isn't a normal draft year. You keep ignoring that fact.

Are there 30 first round pick players in this draft?

I dont' think so.

So sure, it's a good draft. It's not generational.

[O.city]

If they draft a RB with a top 50 pick....well thats not good.