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Old 03-13-2022, 10:55 AM  
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:04 AM   #5236
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One of the things that made the Patriots dynasty happen was their ability to change when needed. They went from 4-3 to 3-4, then 4-3 under looks.

They also went from big time outside targets with Moss to a heavy double TE duo to a run the ball and matriculate it down the field.

I hope that’s what we are doing with our additions.

I’d love to mix a few power runs with RoJo and draft a 2nd TE like McBride to pair with Kelce. A good TE is probably the biggest mismatch for an offense bc you can’t put a LB on them bc they’re too slow and you can’t put a DB on them bc they aren’t big enough.

I’m all for drafting a TE early. You can get another bigger speed receiver in the 3rd rd or our late 2nd
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:07 AM   #5237
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:19 AM   #5238
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:26 AM   #5239
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:26 AM   #5240
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Tyreek Hill example A. Just a total freak who pretty much learned how to play WR on the fly. People are okay with a "redshirt" year for Ojabo Im cool with easing Watson into the NFL playing behind Juju, MVS and Hardman during his rookie year if not ready.
Nah - In fact, he's the perfected demonstration of the opposite point. Tyreek is an example of a guy who's born to play the position or who isn't.

I said it back in his rookie year - I was FLOORED by how polished Hill was as a WR. The little false footfires and the things he did to get his body into position to make a cut at full speed - that stuff looked easier than falling out of bed for him.

His head/shoulders moved naturally when he'd sell a route. He'd adjust to the ball like it was nothing. His body control was unreal. And it all happened for him immediately.

Tyreek Hill didn't learn to play WR - he was born to play it. He was playing it like he'd done it for a decade almost overnight.

Meanwhile someone like Hardman may just NEVER figure all those little things out. And even if he improves in those areas, it'll be mechanical. It will never come as naturally to him as it came to Hill.

Staylor and I had this discussion with somebody as it related to Julio Jones and Devante Adams not terribly long ago. Someone was underselling them as #2 wideouts who were largely system products for some bizarre reason. And I just could not impart onto them the WR things those guys do so well that allow them to get open.

It really is more of an art than some realize or acknowledge. And Hill was just a born prodigy in that regard.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:45 AM   #5241
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I mean Tyreek's rookie year he had 593 receiving yards. Hardman had 538. Id bet a large amount of money the majority of his rookie yardage was in the screen game (catch and run) or just straight go routes. He was not a super star overnight there was a learning curve there.
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Old 04-01-2022, 11:15 AM   #5242
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I posted this in the Shenault thread, meant to put it here...

What if?

Lets say they pull off a trade for DK. They immediately sign him to a new contract for roughly 20 million a year with a low cap hit this year.

We are paying him top WR money for his past production but not THE top, he gets his money sooner and gets Patrick. This helps him out as well as the Chiefs.

Then if he blows up which is likely, hes already under contract for 4 years?

Win Win!
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Old 04-01-2022, 11:31 AM   #5243
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Old 04-01-2022, 11:32 AM   #5244
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I posted this in the Shenault thread, meant to put it here...

What if?

Lets say they pull off a trade for DK. They immediately sign him to a new contract for roughly 20 million a year with a low cap hit this year.

We are paying him top WR money for his past production but not THE top, he gets his money sooner and gets Patrick. This helps him out as well as the Chiefs.

Then if he blows up which is likely, hes already under contract for 4 years?

Win Win!
Theres no motivation to sign sooner. With more deals coming in huge and amazon money. No smart agent is going to let him do that especially after being traded for.
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Old 04-01-2022, 11:32 AM   #5245
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I posted this in the Shenault thread, meant to put it here...

What if?

Lets say they pull off a trade for DK. They immediately sign him to a new contract for roughly 20 million a year with a low cap hit this year.

We are paying him top WR money for his past production but not THE top, he gets his money sooner and gets Patrick. This helps him out as well as the Chiefs.

Then if he blows up which is likely, hes already under contract for 4 years?

Win Win!
Why would DK sign an extension the year before he enters a Andy Reid/Patrick Mahomes led offense when he knows his numbers are going to explode? I too would love it just not gonna happen.
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Theres no motivation to sign sooner. With more deals coming in huge and amazon money. No smart agent is going to let him do that especially after being traded for.
The injury risk is always going to be a motivating factor as to why you get your deal done sooner.
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Old 04-01-2022, 11:51 AM   #5247
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Theres no motivation to sign sooner. With more deals coming in huge and amazon money. No smart agent is going to let him do that especially after being traded for.
Fair question, possible answers...

He isnt going to get a new contract this year from the Seahawks, he could be tagged next year so still no new contract.

He has no QB in Seattle, hard to build your brand over the next two years with no QB.

He gets his money NOW instead of a maybe in the next year or two. He goes to a much better team with the BEST QB in the league.

He then gets another contract at 29 after winning a few Superbowls!
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What would DK's cap charge be on the tag next season?
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What would DK's cap charge be on the tag next season?
Average of the top 5 WR contracts.

This year it was roughly $18.5 million. That's obviously going to go up next off season because of Adams and Hill.
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I'd sign him for $18.5 annually in a heartbeat. That's like $12m less than Hill was asking.
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