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Old 03-13-2022, 10:55 AM  
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:23 AM   #1276
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Feels that way. I'm imagining Lions can offer the most money to Robinson, Chiefs can offer a SB opp with Mahomes, but Browns are offering for him to join Cooper and be #1b with Watson at QB. If Watson ends up elsewhere, maybe that means Robinson to KC. But then again it's hard to believe that anyone would choose Cleveland.
I don't think the Lions are going to get him. They have three WRs now for Goff to throw to in St. Brown, Reynolds and Chark.
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:24 AM   #1277
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Feels that way. I'm imagining Lions can offer the most money to Robinson, Chiefs can offer a SB opp with Mahomes, but Browns are offering for him to join Cooper and be #1b with Watson at QB. If Watson ends up elsewhere, maybe that means Robinson to KC. But then again it's hard to believe that anyone would choose Cleveland.
Hard to believe? If the Browns offer the most money then they would choose Cleveland
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:25 AM   #1278
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Hard to believe? If the Browns offer the most money then they would choose Cleveland
After what Robinson went through last year, I would imagine his decision hinges on more than just the money...
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Anyone have any idea how a restructure works with 2 years left on the contract....and then cutting them the next year?

Do you just get more of a dead cap hit in the final year because you've converted a roster bonus into a signing bonus and split it out over those two years?

I'm just wondering if they could restructure Chris Jones and still get out of the contract in his last year if they wanted to.
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:29 AM   #1280
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After what Robinson went through last year, I would imagine his decision hinges on more than just the money...
These guys have a way of convincing themselves that the team who gives the most money also has a great chance of making the playoffs.
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:31 AM   #1281
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These guys have a way of convincing themselves that the team who gives the most money also has a great chance of making the playoffs.
I know but with Robinson, I'm sure he wants to play with a QB that can actually get him the ball.
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Anyone have any idea how a restructure works with 2 years left on the contract....and then cutting them the next year?

Do you just get more of a dead cap hit in the final year because you've converted a roster bonus into a signing bonus and split it out over those two years?

I'm just wondering if they could restructure Chris Jones and still get out of the contract in his last year if they wanted to.
It all depends on the structure.
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:31 AM   #1283
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I don't think the Lions are going to get him. They have three WRs now for Goff to throw to in St. Brown, Reynolds and Chark.
So then, yeah, maybe it's Clev or KC.

Prob breaks down like below:

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If he goes with Cleveland, the rest of the WR market dominos start to fall. Landry, JuJu, OBJ... we end up with an upgrade either way.
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:33 AM   #1284
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So then, yeah, maybe it's Clev or KC.

Prob breaks down like below:

KC
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SB Opp

CLEV
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$$$

If he goes with Cleveland, the rest of the WR market dominos start to fall. Landry, JuJu, OBJ... we end up with an upgrade either way.
I don't think those are his only options. I highly doubt that only three teams are in on him right now. You can probably add the Raiders, Patriots and Falcons to that list as well.
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It all depends on the structure.
Yeah. The problem is that OTC doesn't allow you to cut him in 2023 and see what the hit would be. It kind of just locks it at that point.
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Anyone have any idea how a restructure works with 2 years left on the contract....and then cutting them the next year?

Do you just get more of a dead cap hit in the final year because you've converted a roster bonus into a signing bonus and split it out over those two years?

I'm just wondering if they could restructure Chris Jones and still get out of the contract in his last year if they wanted to.
You could do it, but with Jones still being fairly young, I would imagine any restructure includes a 3rd year on the deal.

If they stuck to just a 2-year deal, you'd turn that $18 million roster bonus into a signing bonus and maybe put a void year on the back end. That would take the 18 million and split it into 3 chunks of $6 million so you'd bring his cap hit this year from $19 million down to about $7 million. The downshot is you create $12 million in hard cap money in 23 and 24 (again, presuming the void year). And his base is at $19 million for next season so you're looking at a cap hit of $25 million.

Now at that point you could presumptively take that $19 million base and AGAIN bonus it out as part of a 2 year extension. So then he's on a 3 year deal starting in 2023 w/ the $6 million in restructure bonus on the cap plus ANOTHER $6 million ish from the extension as a signing bonus cap charge. So you're starting in 2023 with a cap figure of $12+ million. Presuming a relatively low year 1 salary you could get away with about $14 million but you've now stuck dead money into 2024 and 2025 as well and likely some pretty hefty salary figures in there.

It could all be done but you'd need a willing partner in Jones. Or ultimately you just eat some shit next year if you chose to cut him and whatever roster bonus you converted to a restructure bonus all hits the cap next year (or potentially over 2 years if June 1 tagged).

Clear as mud?
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