Investing megathread extravaganza

[DaFace]

A place to talk about investing stuff.

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by scho63

Already paid your Mom and sister $5 each for two blow jobs and a rim job.

Wanna bet your existence on CP?

You have no balls, just a big bullshit mouth and a loser strategy.

Gonna take the bet pussy?

Dude I dont give a shit where your dumbass has or hasn't been. If you really have been there that makes you an even bigger moron than I already knew you were for thinking their main line of business was still phones. And I guran****ingtee my "loser strategy" has netted me more in the last couple years than yours has.

Now stop getting so worked up before your fatass strokes out or has a heart attack.

[Rain Man]

I recognize that I'm an optimist on this stuff, though historically optimism is a good thing for investing in stocks.

But here's my thinking. Some of this drop (and much of the recent drop) is due to the Ukraine invasion. It's a war, so it'll end or stalemate at some point. Unless the world goes insane and a bunch of nuclear launches destroy civilization, that means we'll gain back those losses once the uncertainty ends. And if civilization is destroyed, my money's gone anyway. So this seems like a time to buy.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I recognize that I'm an optimist on this stuff, though historically optimism is a good thing for investing in stocks.

But here's my thinking. Some of this drop (and much of the recent drop) is due to the Ukraine invasion. It's a war, so it'll end or stalemate at some point. Unless the world goes insane and a bunch of nuclear launches destroy civilization, that means we'll gain back those losses once the uncertainty ends. And if civilization is destroyed, my money's gone anyway. So this seems like a time to buy.

It flipped over before that.

I'm a dumbass, but I'm guessing the market movers were scared about the inflation.

Inflation - employment stagnation -

At least that's what happened in the 70s.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Obviously the risk would be if Russia collapsed and they’re worthless, but that seems unlikely.

I know little about bonds. Am I missing something here?

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Bloomberg: Morgan Stanley predicts Venezuela-style default in Russia by mid-spring.

Investors have already valued the country’s 2023 bonds at about 29 cents on the U.S. dollar, the lowest figure in history according to data collected by Bloomberg.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

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Holy ****ing balls.

What business do they have getting in a war if they're that ****ed? Or is it just that the Western Countries set out to **** Russia in response.

I'd be interested to see the numbers they're using for that analysis because if it's based on the devaluation of the Ruble... it's unlikely it will stay there (I think?) and if there is one thing Russia is not, it's a 3rd world country.

[MTG#10]

Bought 150 more AMC today @ 15, average down to 21.32/share now. Still up big overall, and will be buying this site from Kyle when it rips again.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Or is it just that the Western Countries set out to **** Russia in response.

I'd be interested to see the numbers they're using for that analysis because if it's based on the devaluation of the Ruble... it's unlikely it will stay there (I think?) and if there is one thing Russia is not, it's a 3rd world country.

It's a combination of the sanctions and actions by companies.
The two banks targeted by sanctions European businesses have already folded.
With the Ruble hurting, the central bank would normally lean on foreign currency reserves but they're limited in that regard.

Shell & BP abandoned multi-billion dollar projects with two large Russian Oil producers. I'm sure they'll sell them at pennies on the dollar.

Visa & MC made it where cards issued by banks in Russia, only work in Russia. Cards issued outside Russia, won't work in Russia. Paypal stopped service to Russia.

Tons of retail vendors have just closed all their shops.

At some point, if you're isolated from the world economy and nobody will invest money into your gov or businesses, does your credit rating even matter?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

It's a combination of the sanctions and actions by companies.
The two banks targeted by sanctions European businesses have already folded.
With the Ruble hurting, the central bank would normally lean on foreign currency reserves but they're limited in that regard.

Shell & BP abandoned multi-billion dollar projects with two large Russian Oil producers. I'm sure they'll sell them at pennies on the dollar.

Visa & MC made it where cards issued by banks in Russia, only work in Russia. Cards issued outside Russia, won't work in Russia. Paypal stopped service to Russia.

Tons of retail vendors have just closed all their shops.

At some point, if you're isolated from the world economy and nobody will invest money into your gov or businesses, does your credit rating even matter?

The problem with that line of thinking is that they won't ever not do commerce with China. A majority of their energy imports come from Russia and that isn't changing.

And frankly, from an economic standpoint, it's better to get along, because if it comes to picking sides, China probably goes with Russia. Too much shared border and low-freight commerce to shit where you eat in that regard.

Spoiler for potential DC:

Spoiler!

There has been too much overt confrontation by us for me to feel comfortable. For as bad as we wanted out of Afghanistan, where we had vast military superiority, seems like we're awfully itchy to stick our nose i where we only have slight military superiority - and we probably don't if China dives in.

**** all this shit. Let's just make money, huh?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Bought 150 more AMC today @ 15, average down to 21.32/share now. Still up big overall, and will be buying this site from Kyle when it rips again.

Wut?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by -King-

Wut?

I'm presuming he's getting the "up big" comment from sales he made while it was high.

It's like, the only way.

[Halfcan]

Tired of seeing my accounts in the red- thinking of liquidating everything?

3 more years of this shit and my accounts will be worthless.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Tired of seeing my accounts in the red- thinking of liquidating everything?

3 more years of this shit and my accounts will be worthless.

LOL bunch of rookies hitting their first bear market.

Either learn how to trade and take money of the table quickly daily/weekly or decide you're in it for the long haul and invest money when things are down in solid companies, ETFs or index funds.

What's 3 more years? I don't think this will be a massive bear market and I do think we'll get a solid ride to all-time highs sometime in the next 1-2 years before a monster 50%+ bear comes along in 2-4 years. But again, it's all speculation and if one person out there could perfect timing the market.....we'd all be rich.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Bought 150 more AMC today @ 15, average down to 21.32/share now. Still up big overall, and will be buying this site from Kyle when it rips again.

Originally Posted by -King-

Wut?

Still up big? With what? AMC is down 78% from it's all time high. Deciding to die on a hill with real money just seems foolish, all while claiming you're up "big."

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I'm presuming he's getting the "up big" comment from sales he made while it was high.

It's like, the only way.

He just bought at 15 and his average is still up at 21.32. AMC needs to go up 41% for him to break even from it's current price.

That's math.

And look at that trend line!!!!

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by lewdog

LOL bunch of rookies hitting their first bear market.

Either learn how to trade and take money of the table quickly daily/weekly or decide you're in it for the long haul and invest money when things are down in solid companies, ETFs or index funds.

What's 3 more years? I don't think this will be a massive bear market and I do think we'll get a solid ride to all-time highs sometime in the next 1-2 years before a monster 50%+ bear comes along in 2-4 years. But again, it's all speculation and if one person out there could perfect timing the market.....we'd all be rich.

Rookie-I was trading stocks when you were still in diapers. I am invested for the long-term / Div income and have done well. It is pretty obvious that this administration does not plan on doing anything about oil prices or inflation.

I don't feel like taking a ride to the bottom when I can protect my gains and then get back in after the long slide.

BTW I Am invested in ETF's and "solid" companies. Everything has been in a downward spiral and I don't see any good news on the horizon to make things change.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

LOL, Warren Buffett would call you a fool.

Buffet has invested in plenty of dogs over the last few years. Maybe if I had a massive war chest like he has- I would do some bargain shopping.

The only thing propping up the economy from a complete collapse is the Real Estate market- which is on the biggest bubble I have ever seen.

All you need to do is look back on the Obama years to see where we are headed. They are talking about $200 bucks for a barrel of oil.

Next big Green day- I am out.