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Old 11-01-2021, 10:14 PM  
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Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.
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Old 11-02-2021, 04:00 PM   #196
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Well that’s a problem

Win from the pocket. He’s using the backyard football shit as a crutch

He’s playing awful and his mechanics are all over the place. You can’t last playing this way. Clean it up and win with your brain from the pocket
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Old 11-02-2021, 04:11 PM   #197
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He has regressed to being just an average QB now.

Hopefully he can reclaim the magic.


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Old 11-02-2021, 05:06 PM   #198
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Him and Hill/Kelce seem not to be hanging out on the sideline or talking anymore. Is there a rift going on?
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Old 11-02-2021, 05:11 PM   #199
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Him and Hill/Kelce seem not to be hanging out on the sideline or talking anymore. Is there a rift going on?
The better question is why is Reid not sitting on the sideline with him anymore.
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Old 11-02-2021, 06:18 PM   #200
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Old 11-02-2021, 07:45 PM   #201
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Orlovsky said something interesting on NFL live today. Basically his point was mahomes is having problems with his footwork on certain throws. Sometimes his base is too wide, sometimes he's not driving towards his receiver, other times this she just aren't set. I thought it was interesting and there may be something to it on the off-target throws.
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Old 11-02-2021, 07:48 PM   #202
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Orlovsky said something interesting on NFL live today. Basically his point was mahomes is having problems with his footwork on certain throws. Sometimes his base is too wide, sometimes he's not driving towards his receiver, other times this she just aren't set. I thought it was interesting and there may be something to it on the off-target throws.
I remember a few years ago when his rb screens were a hot mess against the Rams. We can trust that we have an elite coach who is fixing it. Good chance a lot of his struggles are due to Reid pushing him to play a different way. As jittery as he's been, he was trying a lot harder to use and step up in the pocket.
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Old 11-02-2021, 08:07 PM   #203
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Couple of average games where Mahomes gets saddled with a bunch of INTS that are not his fault- and fans are ready to dump him. Pathetic.
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Old 11-02-2021, 08:08 PM   #204
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Dov is a ****ing idiot. Mahomes hater for sure.
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Old 11-02-2021, 08:10 PM   #205
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Orlovsky said something interesting on NFL live today. Basically his point was mahomes is having problems with his footwork on certain throws. Sometimes his base is too wide, sometimes he's not driving towards his receiver, other times this she just aren't set. I thought it was interesting and there may be something to it on the off-target throws.
I am sure Mahomes is jumping at the chance to take footwork advice from a failed nobody that couldn't keep his Own feet from going out of the end zone.
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Old 11-02-2021, 08:12 PM   #206
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Well that’s a problem

Win from the pocket. He’s using the backyard football shit as a crutch

He’s playing awful and his mechanics are all over the place. You can’t last playing this way. Clean it up and win with your brain from the pocket
Mahomes has been reduced to a shitty Back Yard football player now- LOL
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Old 11-02-2021, 08:14 PM   #207
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I am sure Mahomes is jumping at the chance to take footwork advice from a failed nobody that couldn't keep his Own feet from going out of the end zone.
I remember that play. He was real safe from getting sacked out of bounds.
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Old 11-02-2021, 08:15 PM   #208
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"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.
ZOMG SOMEBODY COMPARED HIM TO RICK ****ING ANKIEL?

And then said “of course he’s not Ankiel”.

I realize my off the cuff comment was probably the straw that broke you. But gather up the pieces and try to move forward without all the emotion.
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Thats the issue. Where is he going? Pause it at the 27 second mark. Why are you leaving that pocket?
Brown whiffed on his block. We had 5 to block three and there was still pressure because our tackles can't handle speed rushers.

Brown is a fence post out there.

Andy is predictable and has been getting pawned all year.
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Old 11-03-2021, 07:36 AM   #210
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Brown whiffed on his block. We had 5 to block three and there was still pressure because our tackles can't handle speed rushers.

Brown is a fence post out there.

Andy is predictable and has been getting pawned all year.
Actually, he outran the block.

I've been as critical of Brown as anyone else, but that one's not really his fault. Patrick changes the angle on him and outruns the block.

I don't doubt Mahomes, and I'm certain he'll get it together, he's just too damned good not to. But right now he's not playing well. Which, is still better than average, it's just not good by Mahomes standards.
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