Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks

[carcosa]

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by carcosa

50 doesn't magically become "absolute shit" just because a guy is capable of 80. It's literally average, which means you can't say he's broken or absolute shit or any of that. You can say it's disappointing considering what he's capable of, but it is not enough to start making ****ing mental diagnoses.

"We will see" if Patrick Mahomes can bounce back from the first back-to-back bad games of his career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's hard to say for sure but "we will see"! !!! ! ! ! ! !

His average grade since coming into the league was over 77 for 3 straight years. So I don't think we can apply the same logic with him as typical QB's. Four straight games of 50 or lower is terrible by his standards.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Well, first of all, Kelce got open because Mahomes scrambled left. And second of all, if anything is "wrong" it's that he's saw that linebacker and remembered the kajillion batted/tipped INTs this year and just didn't go for it this time. He missed a play. It happens. Don't say "something is wrong" so ****ing ominously, it's obnoxious.

Also running clock and kicking a FG in that spot with a minute left virtually assured we wouldn’t lose the game. He knew that.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Also running clock and kicking a FG in that spot with a minute left virtually assured we wouldn’t lose the game. He knew that.

I was glad he took the sack instead of throwing an incomplete pass or interception. At least he forced the Giants to lose some clock in that situation.

[Hammock Parties]

Patrick mastered the short passing game at the end of 2019.

He will get his shit squared.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You must think you are protecting Mahomes from the big bad truth or some shit. Really weird.

I think people like you are ****ing annoying, that's what I think.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Also running clock and kicking a FG in that spot with a minute left virtually assured we wouldn’t lose the game. He knew that.

It was a very smart play.

If we had been playing Rodgers, he probably goes gumby there.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by carcosa

I think people like you are ****ing annoying, that's what I think.

Calm down and go record a tiktok dance, Jackson.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Calm down and go record a tiktok dance, Jackson.

Wow epic joke. I mean it doesn't make any ****ing sense, but at least you thought it was funny

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Wow epic joke. I mean it doesn't make any ****ing sense, but at least you thought it was funny

Makes perfect sense.

You're in here trying to act like we all of sudden wouldn't take Mahomes over every QB in the league. That doesn't mean we cant sit here and call a spade a spade.

The idea that people would dare say Patrick Mahomes is playing like shit has your vagina bleeding all of the forum. It's like your self worth hinges on the success of Patrick like a family member riding his coattails.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by DRM08

His average grade since coming into the league was over 77 for 3 straight years. So I don't think we can apply the same logic with him as typical QB's. Four straight games of 50 or lower is terrible by his standards.

Okay but again that's not "terrible" by any objective standard, which takes us back to the absurd language people are using. "Underwhelming" is different than "terrible." He has had 4 great games (2-2 thanks to horrible turnover luck), 2 average/underwhelming games (1-1 including an excellent half in Washington and a loss that Daniel Sorenson alone should take more blame than Mahomes for), and 2 bad games (one of which he won because he's not "broken" and therefore didn't panic when it counted). That's it. There's nothing deeper to it than that. My argument is that he deserves a much longer leash than some people are giving him considering what he's capable of. I don't see how that's controversial to anyone who isn't weirdly insistent on shitting all over the best player in franchise history.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Again, he was statistically just as good as ever the first 6 games. Last week was the biggest outlier of his career. This week he did enough to pull out the win. He's not playing like "absolute shit," not even close. I advise you to watch virtually any Chiefs game from 2006 through 2012 to remind yourself what "absolute shit" QB play actually looks like.

You have a point and he still the best QB in the league and I am glad he is ours. While the numbers disagree for whatever reason this year he seems off from an eye test perspective. I personally think he is seeing ghosts and hearing footsteps that aren't there and it's a product of how Brown/Niang played. Just my perspective.

[Simply Red]

STILL HORNEY 2022!!

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Okay but again that's not "terrible" by any objective standard, which takes us back to the absurd language people are using. "Underwhelming" is different than "terrible." He has had 4 great games (2-2 thanks to horrible turnover luck), 2 average/underwhelming games (1-1 including an excellent half in Washington and a loss that Daniel Sorenson alone should take more blame than Mahomes for), and 2 bad games (one of which he won because he's not "broken" and therefore didn't panic when it counted). That's it. There's nothing deeper to it than that. My argument is that he deserves a much longer leash than some people are giving him considering what he's capable of. I don't see how that's controversial to anyone who isn't weirdly insistent on shitting all over the best player in franchise history.

He has more INTs than Trevor Lawrence, that's not great.

[carcosa]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Makes perfect sense.

You're in here trying to act like we all of sudden wouldn't take Mahomes over every QB in the league. That doesn't mean we cant sit here and call a spade a spade.

The idea that people would dare say Patrick Mahomes is playing like shit has your vagina bleeding all of the forum. It's like your self worth hinges on the success of Patrick like a family member riding his coattails.

Okay that was a long walk to it making any sort of sense, it's still a really shitty joke, sorry

Epic "bleeding vagina" joke too, how'd you come up with that one??????

You're not "calling a spade a spade" when you're freaking out and saying Mahomes is shit after two bad games. You're just being a bitch who can't handle a little adversity. Why are you so insistent on pinning so much on Mahomes when he is objectively not a top 5 problem for this team right now?

[Simply Red]

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