Chiefs Let’s talk about rd 2 - Page 12

RunKC · 04-29-2021, 10:06 PM

Lot of good receivers left as well as corners.

Feeling good about it. What’s our big board look like?

staylor26 · 04-30-2021, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I don’t believe it’s forcing a pick. Veach always talks about pockets. Nothing wrong with getting a guy you believe in.

It’s like you guys forgot that we have the most aggressive GM in football. The guy tried to get Trent Williams month ago, has made 5 trades all being trade up’s and has traded his first rd pick for a veteran in 2 of the last 3 years.

You guys act like this guy is ****ing Chris Ballard

Huh? I’m not saying don’t trade up for one. I’m saying if you sit at 58 you don’t “have” to go DE. You don’t ever pick based solely on need.

htismaqe · 04-30-2021, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Or Spags and our staff are a difference maker but know we need to move up to get him. Trade up for 58 and a 63/3rd rd swap so we still have a 3rd and can get value at IOL, corner or WR

Move up to get who?

There really aren't that many guys left that are going to fall far enough. Are you wanting to trade up into the 30's?

htismaqe · 04-30-2021, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This is Brett ****ing Veach. 5 trades in 3 years. All traded UP.

We didn’t have a 1st. I would bet they’re looking for a top guy on their board, DE or another position.

Doesn’t mean we are giving up a pick to move up

Yep, traded up for Breeland Speaks. And he said it was because the DE class started getting really thin and he felt like he had to. Let's do that again. He said he learned his lesson from that so let's hope he was telling the truth.

htismaqe · 04-30-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I feel like adding a Center like Humphrey makes our O line completely overhauled and a TOP line in the league.

This to me is THE priority. Adding an edge is important but we can get by with a FA, same with CB.

We could absolutely SOLVE one of our most important weakness or add a rotational player to the defense.

I say Get that center and feel good about having the Oline Patrick deserves in front of him. Then go BPA or WR if they really feel like thats the next hole.

We don't need a center THAT bad. Already spent almost our entire free agency on the offensive line. We have other needs.

O.city · 04-30-2021, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We don't need a center THAT bad. Already spent almost our entire free agency on the offensive line. We have other needs.

We've had 1 year bandaids and shitty players there for a few years. If he's there and you can fill it with that type of dude for 3 or 4 years, do it.

**The Franchise** · 04-30-2021, 09:46 AM

If Humphrey or Meinerz are one of the guys on the top of their list at 58 or 63.....then sure.....take him.

**** Landon Dickerson though.

Bronco_buster2 · 04-30-2021, 09:47 AM

What I love about Veach and company.......aside from QB, I have no problem at this point with any position we select at 58 and 63. Whatever “needs” are not addressed after the draft, the Chiefs will use their resources to find.

The “needs” at this point are not so glaring that we have to reach.

Who I would like? Creed Humphrey, Dickerson, Gabril Cox, Perkins, Onwuzurike, Marshall, Barmore, if any fall that far.

Who ‘probably’ will be available I would like? Werner, Tremble, Melifonwu, Cosmi, Ossai, Tufele

MahomesMagic · 04-30-2021, 09:48 AM

Yeah, so many teams ahead of us not going to get my hopes up until we are 5 players away and I can see multiple guys I like still on the board.

RunKC · 04-30-2021, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Move up to get who?

There really aren't that many guys left that are going to fall far enough. Are you wanting to trade up into the 30's?

Not advocating for moving up to early rd 2. You can easily do a trade that he did in 2018 with a pick swap.

Example: Chiefs trade picks 58 and 63 to WFT for picks 52 and 74. That would be a great fair trade.

And please stop bringing up Breeland Speaks. He didn’t work out. So what? We traded up for Mecole Hardman and he started the spark to get our win over the Texans and go to the SB.
Also traded up for some guy named Patrick Mahomes. That seemed to work out well

kccrow · 04-30-2021, 09:50 AM

If Veach wanted to get up in the 30's he might be able to package both 2nds for a pick there and a high 4th.

I don't think he will, but it's something to consider. I really think he's content this year seeing how the board falls though.

Could make a slight move with Washington and go to 51 and get 74 in the 3rd.

**The Franchise** · 04-30-2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Not advocating for moving up to early rd 2. You can easily do a trade that he did in 2018 with a pick swap.

Example: Chiefs trade picks 58 and 63 to WFT for picks 52 and 74. That would be a great fair trade.

And please stop bringing up Breeland Speaks. He didn’t work out. So what? We traded up for Mecole Hardman and he started the spark to get our win over the Texans and go to the SB.
Also traded up for some guy named Patrick Mahomes. That seemed to work out well

Dude. Breeland Speaks didn’t work out and Mecole Hardman is the reason why we need a WR right now.

And Veach didn’t trade up for Mahomes.

**The Franchise** · 04-30-2021, 09:51 AM

And I’d be just fine with the Washington trade if they want someone 8 spots up.

kccrow · 04-30-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Not advocating for moving up to early rd 2. You can easily do a trade that he did in 2018 with a pick swap.

Example: Chiefs trade picks 58 and 63 to WFT for picks 52 and 74. That would be a great fair trade.

And please stop bringing up Breeland Speaks. He didn’t work out. So what? We traded up for Mecole Hardman and he started the spark to get our win over the Texans and go to the SB.
Also traded up for some guy named Patrick Mahomes. That seemed to work out well

Ha, was typing the same thing while I was on the phone. It could work

MahomesMagic · 04-30-2021, 09:53 AM

The thing that bothered me about the Mecole pick is the belief KC had that they could teach him how to run routes better.

Draft what you see. Tyreek is a unicorn that improved. Maybe Steve Smith and Tyreek are the only guys I can think of that dramatically improved from college to the pros like that.

htismaqe · 04-30-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Not advocating for moving up to early rd 2. You can easily do a trade that he did in 2018 with a pick swap.

Example: Chiefs trade picks 58 and 63 to WFT for picks 52 and 74. That would be a great fair trade.

And please stop bringing up Breeland Speaks. He didn’t work out. So what? We traded up for Mecole Hardman and he started the spark to get our win over the Texans and go to the SB.
Also traded up for some guy named Patrick Mahomes. That seemed to work out well

Dude, Basham is probably the first DE off the board tonight. If it's not him, then it's probably Perkins.

After that, there's like NOBODY. Ojulari doesn't really fit. Are you planning on trading up in the 2nd for a guy like Elerson Smith, who probably has a late 3rd round grade?

That's what I'm saying.

OF COURSE, if we could trade up 6 spots and get one of the better DE's left, we could do it. But that's not likely to happen at all. We'd be moving up for a guy that we could stay put and get.

There's just not a lot of value left at DE. We'd be better off going with another position and taking a couple later.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1420389	Let’s talk about rd 2 Lot of good receivers left as well as corners. Feeling good about it. What’s our big board look like?
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04-30-2021, 09:46 AM	#171
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Bronco_buster2 Starter Join Date: Sep 2017 Casino cash: $8880400	What I love about Veach and company.......aside from QB, I have no problem at this point with any position we select at 58 and 63. Whatever “needs” are not addressed after the draft, the Chiefs will use their resources to find. The “needs” at this point are not so glaring that we have to reach. Who I would like? Creed Humphrey, Dickerson, Gabril Cox, Perkins, Onwuzurike, Marshall, Barmore, if any fall that far. Who ‘probably’ will be available I would like? Werner, Tremble, Melifonwu, Cosmi, Ossai, Tufele
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04-30-2021, 09:48 AM	#173
MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $550400	Yeah, so many teams ahead of us not going to get my hopes up until we are 5 players away and I can see multiple guys I like still on the board.
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04-30-2021, 09:50 AM	#175
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1070000	If Veach wanted to get up in the 30's he might be able to package both 2nds for a pick there and a high 4th. I don't think he will, but it's something to consider. I really think he's content this year seeing how the board falls though. Could make a slight move with Washington and go to 51 and get 74 in the 3rd.
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04-30-2021, 09:51 AM	#177
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2085047	And I’d be just fine with the Washington trade if they want someone 8 spots up.
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04-30-2021, 09:53 AM	#179
MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $550400	The thing that bothered me about the Mecole pick is the belief KC had that they could teach him how to run routes better. Draft what you see. Tyreek is a unicorn that improved. Maybe Steve Smith and Tyreek are the only guys I can think of that dramatically improved from college to the pros like that.
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