Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach

[dlphg9]

Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl.

7 penalties for 82 yds on KC

1 penalty for 5 yds on TB

5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime.

On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties

The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38.

The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles.

Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down.

Very next play Bucs score a TD.

Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line.

The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game.

That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor.

Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do.

There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards.

These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come.

Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been.

Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties

His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties

Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined.

Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better.

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

[dlphg9]

So more penalty stats. It's amazing and totally just a huge coincidence that Tom's first 3 SBs seemed to be called more fairly than his last 7.

First 3 SBs

Tom's teams

Penalty Yards - 138
Pen yds/game - 46
First downs from Penalties - 5
1st from pen/game - 1.67

Opponents

Penalty Yards - 147
Pen yds/game - 49
First downs from Penalties - 7
1st from pen/game - 2.33

Last 7 SB games

Tom's teams

Penalty Yards - 186
Pen yds/game - 26.5
First downs from Penalties - 21
1st from pen/game - 3

Opponents

Penalty Yards - 415
Pen yds/game - 59
First downs from Penalties - 8
1st from pen/game - 1.1

So interesting and coincidental that before Tom and the Pat's became a big household name these games seemed to be called extremely fair over 3 games the Tom's were only +9 in penalty yard differential and - 2 in first down from penalty differential.

Tom and the Pat's become the NFLs golden goose and the TomPats went from having 3 less penalty yards a game and nearly the same amount of 1st downs from penalties in their first 3 SBs to having 33 yds/game less than their opponents and nearly 3x as many first downs from penalties in their last 7 SBs.

The NFL is horse shit and they 100% helped him win several SBs. There is absolutely no way a person can say that these games are being called fairly.

[morphius]

Listening to the radio yesterday, and I'm not sure if this was pointed out, but 5 times this year the Chiefs have been called for 10 or more penalties, 3 of those games were by the crew the did this SB...

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by morphius

Listening to the radio yesterday, and I'm not sure if this was pointed out, but 5 times this year the Chiefs have been called for 10 or more penalties, 3 of those games were by the crew the did this SB...

I HOPE THEY ALL DIE!!!

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

The problem I've personally always had with it is that it's just an exercise in finding a way to plug a game into a conspiracy, and you'll always be able to do that. Chiefs win, well it was obviously this one call or whatever.... Bucs win, well, it was obviously this call.

And even in this case, I seriously doubt whatever the **** we watched Sunday night was not how the NFL wanted it to play out, because I don't remember anything close to this when it comes to the volume of calls that were just completely false, and why would they start being so blatant about it now. It's a bad look for the NFL and they could do far less to steer the game in whatever direction.

The thought process in these threads makes sense though... the NFL obviously works with refs all the time, they tell them what to look for, etc.... and in theory, they would actually have to build in an effort NOT to steer games a certain way, because they could obviously accidentally do it if it's "watch these few players" and then the refs are dumbasses and don't call it both ways.

I don't think there's any "finally" about it for those reasons.... we all have our own thresholds and analysis when it comes to this kind of stuff and what's incompetence versus conspiracy and so forth and it's never, ever been this bad.

Look at my most recent post and you can see just how blatant the bias is. Tom has had 48 more combined penalty yards in 7 SBs, then he did in 3. The first downs from Penalties is the most alarming thing. Constant bailouts from the officials when no one else is getting that same treatment. In 11 games that the TomPats weren't involved in and 22 other teams were there was only 29 total first downs from penalties and TomPats had 21 in 7 games

So

7 teams = 21 firsts
22 teams = 29 firsts

That's alot of help for Tom.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

and if we would have gotten close would it have continued in the 2nd?

Absolutely. If they came back and made it a game, the refs would have stepped up their efforts. Once they made it blatantly obvious what they were doing in the second quarter, I turned the game off. It just sucks that this has literally been the worst year ever for the world and the one day that people can take their minds off of all the bs for a few hours, the refs decide to make it about them and ruin the whole damn game for everyone.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Bucs receivers were amazed by Mahomes' magic act ��@CGtwelve_ | @MikeEvans13_ pic.twitter.com/HmKuEiVeYt

— NFL Films (@NFLFilms) February 9, 2021

[swifty32661]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I HOPE THEY ALL DIE!!!

I second that.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by morphius

Listening to the radio yesterday, and I'm not sure if this was pointed out, but 5 times this year the Chiefs have been called for 10 or more penalties, 3 of those games were by the crew the did this SB...

#investigaeCarlCheffers


I believe he has the most penalties of any crew in the league. It is not just us-but I have seen other games with him. It is a flag fest

[fan4ever]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Bucs receivers were amazed by Mahomes' magic act ��@CGtwelve_ | @MikeEvans13_ pic.twitter.com/HmKuEiVeYt

— NFL Films (@NFLFilms) February 9, 2021

That's why they can talk GOAT all they want about Brady; years from now when it's all said and done and they're asking players who they thought was the very best they'll mention Brady but then they'll say...but Mahomes...he did things I'd never seen before...and it will be followed by a 3 hour highlight reel.

[displacedinMN]

Greatest performance in a loss. ever. Go Mahomes

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

So more penalty stats. It's amazing and totally just a huge coincidence that Tom's first 3 SBs seemed to be called more fairly than his last 7.

First 3 SBs

Tom's teams

Penalty Yards - 138
Pen yds/game - 46
First downs from Penalties - 5
1st from pen/game - 1.67

Opponents

Penalty Yards - 147
Pen yds/game - 49
First downs from Penalties - 7
1st from pen/game - 2.33

Last 7 SB games

Tom's teams

Penalty Yards - 186
Pen yds/game - 26.5
First downs from Penalties - 21
1st from pen/game - 3

Opponents

Penalty Yards - 415
Pen yds/game - 59
First downs from Penalties - 8
1st from pen/game - 1.1

So interesting and coincidental that before Tom and the Pat's became a big household name these games seemed to be called extremely fair over 3 games the Tom's were only +9 in penalty yard differential and - 2 in first down from penalty differential.

Tom and the Pat's become the NFLs golden goose and the TomPats went from having 3 less penalty yards a game and nearly the same amount of 1st downs from penalties in their first 3 SBs to having 33 yds/game less than their opponents and nearly 3x as many first downs from penalties in their last 7 SBs.

The NFL is horse shit and they 100% helped him win several SBs. There is absolutely no way a person can say that these games are being called fairly.

And don't forget: the Patriots were cheating in those first three Super Bowls. They had the other teams' signals and walkthroughs on tape. So even without the ref help, those rings weren't legit either.

Brady is the most manufactured star in sports history and people are sick of it, which is why the ratings for the Super Bowl tanked this year.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Pants

Another great video to watch if you're a masochist.

Andy actually had some great plays drawn up and they were called at the right time.

Stupid **** ups by the WRs (not drops) and of course the non-existent pass pro did us in:

It can't be overstated how pathetic our offensive line was on Sunday.

Nick Allegretti, What the everliving **** were you doing on that play where we had Tyreek open for the deep touchdown?

Jesus Christ I want to punch a hole in my monitor watching that shit.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

It can't be overstated how pathetic our offensive line was on Sunday.

Honestly not sure I've ever seen anything like it. Almost any QB in history is sacked 10x in that game.