Chiefs Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach - Page 9

dlphg9 · 02:11 PM

Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl.

7 penalties for 82 yds on KC

1 penalty for 5 yds on TB

5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime.

On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties

The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38.

The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles.

Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down.

Very next play Bucs score a TD.

Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line.

The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game.

That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor.

Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do.

There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards.

These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come.

Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been.

Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties

His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties

Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined.

Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better.

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

displacedinMN · 02-08-2021, 01:39 PM

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Mecca · 02-08-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Lmao yes you will. You bring this up and talk about this literally every season.

The NFL owns your ass

To be fair we should care less, it's a show.

BlackOp · 02-08-2021, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Lmao yes you will. You bring this up and talk about this literally every season.

The NFL owns your ass

Nope..I've been done for awhile

Chiefs won a SB in my lifetime...and after being indoctrinated into fandom 40+ years ago..it's all I wanted.

I dont care about a dynasty or GOAT talk...that's for meatheads to argue over.

Mahomes was the only reason I was even still paying attention...had he been average...I would have already been gone.

This is entertainment/corporate marketing not sport...so there is no reason for me to continue investing any energy in following it...keeps getting dumber and dumber every year too...

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-08-2021, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy

What? You think the players and coaches on this team are a bunch of mental midgets? You think they were unable to do their job because of Britt Reid? Get the **** out. The biggest game of their lives and you're saying a ****ing position coach getting in trouble holds so much sway over this team that none of them could stay focused on THE BIGGEST GAME IN THEIR LIVES?
Bullshit!

It was ****ing with Andy, Bieniemy called most of the plays in the 2nd half with Andy going into a PTSD thousand yard stare.

TEX · 02-08-2021, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yet at the same time everyone is sucking Levonte David's dick for being physical with Kelce, it's a great double standard.

Nailed it! KC was NOT allowed to play physical, but TB was.

suzzer99 · 02-08-2021, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We beat ourselves too. I counted 3 passes that either hit our hands or the face mask and were dropped.

Kelce had one that killed a drive, Tyreek should have had a Td but dropped it and the miraculous Patrick pass that hit Darrel Williams in the face at the goal line.

Refs sucked but we didn’t help ourselves either

Pretty much every one of those dropped passes though either had hands in their face or someone draped on them. Still should catch it - but TB's defense made the catches a lot tougher.

tmax63 · 02-08-2021, 02:35 PM

It was a game the 1st 2 series then the flags came out and let KC know they couldn't play defense the way they had all year. They kept the flags in their pockets for TB. After that it was basically over.

suzzer99 · 02-08-2021, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Nailed it! KC was NOT allowed to play physical, but TB was.

TB's pass rush was so dominant, their DBs knew they didn't have to grab. So calling the secondary play super tight was a huge benefit to TB.

There's no way the NFL wanted to see a blowout like this - one of the most boring SBs ever. Unless Brady literally has compromat on Goodell, that's silly to even think.

I do think they were worried about the Chiefs blowing out the Bucs like the first meeting. So the refs were directed to deliberately skew their pregame "points of emphasis" or whatever they call it - to call the game tight. The unpsoken part is that this is to level the playing field and hopefully get a great game with crazy Mahomes magic. I fully believe the NFL tries to nudge games like this to get exciting outcomes - see the Rams Monday night game. I don't think they ever say it out loud though.

Unfortunately all they did here was tip the playing field completely out of reach for us.

KChiefs1 · 02-08-2021, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63

It was a game the 1st 2 series then the flags came out and let KC know they couldn't play defense the way they had all year. They kept the flags in their pockets for TB. After that it was basically over.

Agreed

Sassy Squatch · 02-08-2021, 03:52 PM

Tampa Bay scored 10 points in the second half. That's it. The offense failed to do anything all game and that's why we lost. Period

GoChargers · 02-08-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Refs made the game unwatchable.

The AFC & NFC championship games were reffed better.

The NFC title game was just as much of a farce as the Super Bowl. Same story there, the league didn't want an actual GOAT contender to beat their manufactured "GOAT." So the Bucs' defense was allowed to do whatever they wanted all game (for example, the blatant hold that Murphy-Bunting got away with late in the first half that led to a Rodgers interception) and then Brady got a clutch bullshit PI call to seal the win.

dlphg9 · 02-08-2021, 04:35 PM

Cheffers officiated 2 other games for us. 9/20 against the Chargers and 11/22 against the Raiders.

9/20 - 11 penalties for 90 yds
11/22 - 10 penalties for 89 yds

He also officiated the January 2017 Pitt loss with the Fisher hold on the 2 point conversion.

The 2nd quarter alone last night we were flagged for 90 yards. The most ever in a single quarter of a SB game and the most in a single quarter of an NFL game since week 1 of 2018.

Last night was a ****ing joke and now all I get to see, read, or hear about is how great Brady is and how no one will ever be better.

staylor26 · 02-08-2021, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

Cheffers officiated 2 other games for us. 9/20 against the Chargers and 11/22 against the Raiders.

9/20 - 11 penalties for 90 yds
11/22 - 10 penalties for 89 yds

He also officiated the January 2017 Pitt loss with the Fisher hold on the 2 point conversion.

The 2nd quarter alone last night we were flagged for 90 yards. The most ever in a single quarter of a SB game and the most in a single quarter of an NFL game since week 1 of 2018.

Last night was a ****ing joke and now all I get to see, read, or hear about is how great Brady is and how no one will ever be better.

It’s all a coincidence.

Just like the Bucs being the beneficiaries of the most PI yards in 12+ years.

Just like the Bucs getting a beneficial PI call to help win the NFCCG game when they were letting the Bucs corners mug GB’s receivers all game.

It’s all a coincidence.

threebag · 02-08-2021, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

The Bucs defense beat the shit out of our backup O line. It sucks but I’m not gonna blame the refs for that.

This is where I’m at, now load up and let’s go again. It’s a great time the Chiefs other than the social shit the league wants to shove down everyone’s throats.

GoChargers · 02-08-2021, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It’s all a coincidence.

Just like the Bucs being the beneficiaries of the most PI yards in 12+ years.

Just like the Bucs getting a beneficial PI call to help win the NFCCG game when they were letting the Bucs corners mug GB’s receivers all game.

It’s all a coincidence.

Jameis Winston was probably watching the game and wondering where all these refs were last season.

02-08-2021, 03:11 AM
dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1410347	Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl. 7 penalties for 82 yds on KC 1 penalty for 5 yds on TB 5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime. On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38. The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles. Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down. Very next play Bucs score a TD. Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line. The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game. That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor. Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do. There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards. These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come. Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been. Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined. Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better. Here's some more "interesting" stats So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized 47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards. His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards. Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called. 11 games 135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties. The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12. 50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing. Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom. Last edited by dlphg9; 02-09-2021 at 02:11 PM..
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02-08-2021, 04:35 PM	#132
dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1410347	Cheffers officiated 2 other games for us. 9/20 against the Chargers and 11/22 against the Raiders. 9/20 - 11 penalties for 90 yds 11/22 - 10 penalties for 89 yds He also officiated the January 2017 Pitt loss with the Fisher hold on the 2 point conversion. The 2nd quarter alone last night we were flagged for 90 yards. The most ever in a single quarter of a SB game and the most in a single quarter of an NFL game since week 1 of 2018. Last night was a ****ing joke and now all I get to see, read, or hear about is how great Brady is and how no one will ever be better.
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