Chiefs Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach - Page 8

dlphg9 · 02:11 PM

Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl.

7 penalties for 82 yds on KC

1 penalty for 5 yds on TB

5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime.

On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties

The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38.

The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles.

Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down.

Very next play Bucs score a TD.

Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line.

The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game.

That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor.

Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do.

There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards.

These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come.

Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been.

Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties

His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties

Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined.

Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better.

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

Mecca · 02-08-2021, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliChief83

They said there was over 100 cameras for the game. You're telling me we couldn't get one shot of down the line. Come on

That's on purpose.

stevieray · 02-08-2021, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

There were far too many wtf moments to suggest it didn't have a significant impact. I've never seen this team, with PMII as QB, lack the sort of focus we had for an entire game. A qtr, maybe a half, but NEVER for a full game - not like this.

They've averaged 30 pts a game and put up 9.

And just like some of the fans here, most likely a finger gets pointed at Andy by the some of the players. ( at least in their head)

They were mentally handicapped.

A little girl is fighting for her life.

You can't stop human nature.

**notorious** · 02-08-2021, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

They've averaged 30 pts a game and put up 9.

And just like some of the fans here, most likely a finger gets pointed at Andy by the some of the players. ( at least in their head)

They were mentally handicapped.

A little girl is fighting for her life.

You can't stop human nature.

This is the reality.

There is no way it didn't affect them.

Sorry · 02-08-2021, 12:15 PM

That’s funny. Y’all weren’t saying that when the refs helped you in the other super bowl

RunKC · 02-08-2021, 12:15 PM

We did get ****ed by the refs but it was 14-6. We made it through the storm and Brady was just ready to go to the locker room.

Then Andy made a huge mistake and they got a TD.

It would have been 14-9 after our first possession of the 2nd half of not for that error.

staylor26 · 02-08-2021, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We did get ****ed by the refs but it was 14-6. We made it through the storm and Brady was just ready to go to the locker room.

Then Andy made a huge mistake and they got a TD.

It would have been 14-9 after our first possession of the 2nd half of not for that error.

You’re right, but it also would’ve only been 17-9 if it weren’t for the one sided officiating too.

BlackOp · 02-08-2021, 12:34 PM

NFL is dead to me...I'm not wasting another year following a team just so the officials can hand another trophy to Brady.

Two decades of this shit is enough...and two of the past three years in Mahomes case.

I might start caring when he retires...when/if it becomes a sport again...starting to wonder if it ever really was and I was just too young to notice.

It's like the NFL is just trolling it's own supporters...nobody cares about Brady anymore except NE hanger ons and the 20 or so Buc fans. The Bobble-heads try to make it seem like everyone is still enamored in watching him play... and getting gifted SB titles.

He's not Micheal Jordan and never will be in the same stratosphere....people are only watching him because there is no other choice. He's not this transcendent talent...People loved Jordan because he was actually better than everyone else.

I had a bad feeling at the end of the Packers game...actually when I first learned Clete was officiating that game.

I'm not interested in the game drama being directly tied to if and when officials will bail him out every year.

Last night was ridiculous...and insulting to anyone who has followed this game for more than 10 years. I didn't watch the Rams/Patriots SB...and tuned out of this one in the 3rd.

Learning Tampa had the most PI calls in history this season.. then sets a SB record for 1st down penalties the same year is the final nail...the cancer keeps spreading... and has finally consumed the host.

Tom Brady's 7 rings arent a symbol of athletic greatness...they are a symbolic of corporate greed/corruption.

stumppy · 02-08-2021, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

You'll never convince me that Britt Reid didn't **** the Chiefs mentally last night. There was a lack of focus all over the field from players and coaches alike and their demeanor was piss poor.

What? You think the players and coaches on this team are a bunch of mental midgets? You think they were unable to do their job because of Britt Reid? Get the **** out. The biggest game of their lives and you're saying a ****ing position coach getting in trouble holds so much sway over this team that none of them could stay focused on THE BIGGEST GAME IN THEIR LIVES?
Bullshit!

Mecca · 02-08-2021, 01:12 PM

You could tell by the teams body language they didn't think they were going to be allowed to win.

KChiefs1 · 02-08-2021, 01:15 PM

Refs made the game unwatchable.

The AFC & NFC championship games were reffed better.

Mecca · 02-08-2021, 01:19 PM

The Superbowl crew was an ass crew that didn't deserve the game. But because ba woman was on it they got the game.

KC_Connection · 02-08-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You could tell by the teams body language they didn't think they were going to be allowed to win.

The defense stopped playing at the same level of physicality in the 2nd half because they knew they couldn't get away with it any longer. Of course they had been playing with that same level of physicality against the Browns and Bills without getting penalized.

I wonder what the difference was this time.

Mecca · 02-08-2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The defense stopped playing at the same level of physicality in the 2nd half because they knew they couldn't get away with it any longer. Of course they had been playing with that same level of physicality against the Browns and Bills without getting penalized.

I wonder what the difference was this time.

Yet at the same time everyone is sucking Levonte David's dick for being physical with Kelce, it's a great double standard.

**The Franchise** · 02-08-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The defense stopped playing at the same level of physicality in the 2nd half because they knew they couldn't get away with it any longer. Of course they had been playing with that same level of physicality against the Browns and Bills without getting penalized.

I wonder what the difference was this time.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yet at the same time everyone is sucking Levonte David's dick for being physical with Kelce, it's a great double standard.

Yep. And it put the game out of reach which allowed Tampa Bay to just run it down our throats. No pass rush is going to happen with that.

We still beat ourselves on offense but **** man. That first half was complete bullshit.

RunKC · 02-08-2021, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

NFL is dead to me...I'm not wasting another year.

Lmao yes you will. You bring this up and talk about this literally every season.

The NFL owns your ass

02-08-2021, 03:11 AM
dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1410347	Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl. 7 penalties for 82 yds on KC 1 penalty for 5 yds on TB 5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime. On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38. The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles. Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down. Very next play Bucs score a TD. Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line. The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game. That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor. Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do. There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards. These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come. Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been. Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined. Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better. Here's some more "interesting" stats So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized 47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards. His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards. Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called. 11 games 135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties. The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12. 50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing. Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom. Last edited by dlphg9; 02-09-2021 at 02:11 PM..
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02-08-2021, 12:34 PM	#112
BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $2805267	NFL is dead to me...I'm not wasting another year following a team just so the officials can hand another trophy to Brady. Two decades of this shit is enough...and two of the past three years in Mahomes case. I might start caring when he retires...when/if it becomes a sport again...starting to wonder if it ever really was and I was just too young to notice. It's like the NFL is just trolling it's own supporters...nobody cares about Brady anymore except NE hanger ons and the 20 or so Buc fans. The Bobble-heads try to make it seem like everyone is still enamored in watching him play... and getting gifted SB titles. He's not Micheal Jordan and never will be in the same stratosphere....people are only watching him because there is no other choice. He's not this transcendent talent...People loved Jordan because he was actually better than everyone else. I had a bad feeling at the end of the Packers game...actually when I first learned Clete was officiating that game. I'm not interested in the game drama being directly tied to if and when officials will bail him out every year. Last night was ridiculous...and insulting to anyone who has followed this game for more than 10 years. I didn't watch the Rams/Patriots SB...and tuned out of this one in the 3rd. Learning Tampa had the most PI calls in history this season.. then sets a SB record for 1st down penalties the same year is the final nail...the cancer keeps spreading... and has finally consumed the host. Tom Brady's 7 rings arent a symbol of athletic greatness...they are a symbolic of corporate greed/corruption. Last edited by BlackOp; 02-08-2021 at 01:20 PM..
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02-08-2021, 01:12 PM	#114
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02-08-2021, 01:19 PM	#116
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