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Old 02-08-2021, 03:11 AM  
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Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach

Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl.

7 penalties for 82 yds on KC

1 penalty for 5 yds on TB

5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime.

On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties

The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38.

The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles.

Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down.

Very next play Bucs score a TD.

Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line.

The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game.

That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor.

Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do.

There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards.

These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come.

Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been.

Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties

His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties

Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined.

Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better.

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

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Old 02-08-2021, 09:55 AM   #46
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Disagree, the negated INT was HUGE.

The 4th and 5 FG offsides call is the one that pissed me off and confirmed that the refs were intentionally slanting the game
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:59 AM   #47
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The refs are not why we lost.

I do wish everything was reviewable in the NFL. (Maybe just the playoffs) Too many bad/subjective PI calls that are hard to judge in real time.
No way game would take forever. Bad calls happen. Sometimes it goes your way and sometimes it doesnt. This game it just didnt
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:02 AM   #48
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Simms and Florio on PFT trashing the refs for the way they called the game.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:06 AM   #49
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The officiating wasn't good, but whining about officiating is for losers...literally. The Chiefs played like dog shit, and got stomped out exactly as they deserved to. That was an embarrassing performance from all three phases of the game, and the coaching staff.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:09 AM   #50
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Simms and Florio on PFT trashing the refs for the way they called the game.
I was shocked at how Esiason and Burleson were talking about it in the postgame, they made no bones about it at all... the officiating was horrendous
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:10 AM   #51
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I was shocked at how Esiason and Burleson were talking about it in the postgame, they made no bones about it at all... the officiating was horrendous
Yup, Boomer called them out during halftime. Said too many flags led directly to the Buccs scoring.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:11 AM   #52
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It’s like some of you don’t understand that football is a game of momentum and to take away that INT on an absolute ticky tack call completely changed the game from that point on.
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Old 02-08-2021, 10:16 AM   #54
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Refs gave the game to Tampa and made the chiefs one dimensional (on both sides of the ball) in ...it was the refs not Brady and the bucs
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The officiating didn't COST the game. The officiating RUINED the game.
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Hahaha this is hilarious. Y'all got your asses kicked. Accept the loss and move on. Tampa was the better team yesterday.
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Jesus dude, the Chiefs OL got away with a ton of blatant holding as well. The difference is your backups got destroyed anyway because they aren't even good enough to protect Mahomes holding for dear life.

Chiefs get pretty much all the calls these days. Your DB's constantly held/mugged the Bills receivers with few if any flags.

Injuries doomed you. Not officials. The smart play by the NFL was to have Mahomes beat Brady officially taking the torch.
"the Chiefs OL got away with a ton of blatant holding as well" REALLY?!!! Is that why Pat was running for his life every down? Please go sit down......
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No way game would take forever. Bad calls happen. Sometimes it goes your way and sometimes it doesnt. This game it just didnt
If it adds 15-20 minutes so be it. Get the calls right is the most important thing.
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Hahaha this is hilarious. Y'all got your asses kicked. Accept the loss and move on. Tampa was the better team yesterday.
Agreed, the excuse-making is pathetic. That was the worst performance by the Chiefs since Mahomes became the starter, and the OL was far from the only reason they lost.
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The officiating wasn't good, but whining about officiating is for losers...literally. The Chiefs played like dog shit, and got stomped out exactly as they deserved to. That was an embarrassing performance from all three phases of the game, and the coaching staff.
Before the game, my thought on having people over to watch who don't really care was, meh, the conversations and what not fade to the background and I don’t mind if I'm the only one yelling at the TV....

....and then that level of BS happens and I'm really yelling at the TV, also later explaining I'm fully self aware it makes me look like a sore loser crybaby because my team is losing, but also giving the Bucs' defense credit and so forth.

I do think that level of BS should be called out... yeah, some fans try really ****ing hard to find that one holding non-call or whatever with no objectivity, but things like last night that are just as bad as that Saints/Rams DPI no call, should be called out, IMO.

It's not exactly some subjective crybaby excuse when it's that ****ing blatant.... and again, they probably still lose the game anyway, but the NFL should be called out on the garbage officiating, too.
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