Yeah the line was horrendous, but the refs put this game out of reach

[dlphg9]

Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl.

7 penalties for 82 yds on KC

1 penalty for 5 yds on TB

5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime.

On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties

The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38.

The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles.

Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down.

Very next play Bucs score a TD.

Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line.

The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game.

That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor.

Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do.

There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards.

These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come.

Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been.

Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties

His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties

Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined.

Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better.

Here's some more "interesting" stats

So Tom Brady has had 10 SB games and in those 10 games his teams have been penalized

47 times for 324 yds and has been given 26 1st downs from penalty yards.

His opponents have been penalized 71 times for a total of 562 yards and have 15 1st downs from penalty yards.

Now let's look at games since 2001 in which Tom Brady wasn't present and see how penalties were called.

11 games

135 penalties, 1125 yards, 29 1st downs from Penalties

That averages out to 6.1 penalties, 51 yards, 1.3 1st downs off penalties per team

Opponents of the Tom in the SB average 7.1 penalties, 56 yards, and 1.5 1st downs from penalties

Tom Bradys team averages in the SB are 4.7 penalties, 32.4 yards, 2.6 1st downs from penalties.

The 1st downs from penalties is the most bullshit of all. Since 2001 there has only been 4 teams that have gotten 4 or more 1st downs from penalties. Tom Bradys teams have been the recipients of 3 of those 4. There has been 12 instances in which teams were awarded 3 or more first downs from Penalties. Tom Brady's teams got 5 out of the 12.

50% of the time Tom has been helped by more than 3 penalties for 1st downs. Only 20% of Tom's opponents have benefitted from that same stat. In 11 other SBs between 22 teams only 23% of teams benefitted from the same thing.

Tom's a God damn fraud. I wish someone in the media would bring up the bias that the refs show Tom.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The refs sucked, yes, but I think it's like a 95% chance we lose the game even if they didn't call a single penalty in the first half.

We got beat. It is what it is.

Yeah, it made the game infinitely more frustrating and I'm not sure when the last time I screamed at the TV as much.... but, besides the one non-call on Kelce where he caught it anyway, I don't remember any obvious bullshit that the cameras caught on offense (not usually looking for it though, and can't say I was exactly glued to every single play in the 2nd half).

All of the horrible, horrible calls obviously put more pressure on the team and so forth, but they executed a great gameplan to shut down an offense no one really thought could be shut down in a big game... so, tip your cap as a fan and move on.

And **** Tom Brady.

[buttpiratepyrex]

Blaming the refs after that butt rape is embarrassing and you should stop looking for excuses. The chiefs are overrated

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The Jones call was 100% correct. In fact he threw a punch and should have been ejected. So the Chiefs actually got one in their favor there.

Jones was retaliating and it was clear as day. The official was right there.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Same refs who let the Chiefs get away with a bunch of holding calls and an obvious face mask? Those refs? Those refs are what held the Chiefs to 9 points?


Both Chiefs' lines got their asses kicked, Brady outplayed Mahomes, and Tampa shut down Hill. That's what put the game out of reach.



Edit: KC's punting in the first half helped the Bucs win, too.

Brady outplayed Mahomes.

[Marcellus]

The game was terribly officiated but the Chiefs play lost them the game. Dropped passes, missed blocks, shitty punts and bad tackling.

The end.

[Easy 6]

I'm with op, yes the line was sickening... but the way the first half in particular was called completely took the edge away from our defense

Until last night, the league had been letting teams "just play" throughout the playoffs, but they decided to make themselves a huge part of the story in the years biggest game

The refs won the first half, Tampa Bay won the second half

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I'm with op, yes the line was sickening... but the way the first half in particular was called completely took the edge away from our defense

Until last night, the league had been letting teams "just play" throughout the playoffs, but they decided to make themselves a huge part of the story in the years biggest game

The refs won the first half, Tampa Bay won the second half

The deal is though, they let Tampa Bay's defense play the whole game.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by okoyeandcream

Mahomes sucked. He was TERRIBLE, looked like a rookie out there.
.

^Stupid^

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The refs sucked, yes, but I think it's like a 95% chance we lose the game even if they didn't call a single penalty in the first half.

We got beat. It is what it is.

Disagree, the negated INT was HUGE.

[notorious]

Finally played a game where all the dumb mistakes the Chiefs make cost them.


Add that to horrendous calls and you get this blowout.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by TEX

The deal is though, they let Tampa Bay's defense play the whole game.

Originally Posted by stevieray

Disagree, the negated INT was HUGE.

Yep, every single time something broke our way they took it back

Was it the ONLY reason we lost?

No, not at all

But it damn sure put us in a hole, and stole our guys energy by constantly pulling the rug out from underneath them in critical situations

[Frosty]

It looks like the NFL needs to send an apology to Dee Ford. It's pretty clear that lining up offsides isn't a penalty during the playoffs, considering how many times the Buccs did it yesterday without a single flag (the flags came when they actually jumped early).

[stumppy]

How bad was the line?

Patrick Mahomes ran a total of 497 yards before his passes/sacks tonight per @NextGenStats.

That's the most pre-throw/pre-sack yards run by any quarterback in any game this season.

— Seth Walder (@SethWalder) February 8, 2021

[okoyeandcream]

Originally Posted by stevieray

^Stupid^

Yeah I'm sorry he was great. Any other QB in the league gives that performance and we'd be piling on laughing. Hell Josh Allen was under just as much pressure two weeks ago and he at least managed to get his team in the endzone a couple times

Mahomes was flat out BAD and hopefuuly he leans from it and doesn;t make exuses to himself. That's how he'll learn

[Raider9175]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Play by the line was the worst excuse for blocking that I have ever seen and the WRs let Pat down so many times it was unreal, but our play way the least of our worries. The refs were not going to let Tom Brady lose a home Super Bowl.

7 penalties for 82 yds on KC

1 penalty for 5 yds on TB

5 of those 7 penalties were key reasons as to why the Bucs had a 21-6 lead at halftime.

On the Bucs 2nd TD they were gifted 3 huge penalties

The holding call on the punt which made us punt again. Punt was shanked and instead of the Bucs starting at their own 30 they start at the KC 38.

The horse shit defensive holding call that negated a Mathieu int. One of many penalties that was borderline at best. This type of play happens all season and is rarely called during the regular season and is never called in the postseason since the officials typically swallow their whistles.

Horseshit offsides call on the FG which resulted in a first down. Didn't look like he was lined up in the neutral zone and there definitely should have been a measurement to verify that it was actually a first down.

Very next play Bucs score a TD.

Bucs 3rd TD drive to go up 21-6 right before halftime is another bullshit sequence of ticky tack penalties that should never been called. One 34 yard pass interference call because feet got tangled and the WR fell. A play you see, but is never called a penalty. A few plays later we see a ball thrown out of the back of the end zone that nearly hits the wall, a ball that had no chance of being caught, but still the flags come in flying. PI on TM and the ball goes to the 1 yard line.

The officials seemed to be calling two different games. When the Bucs had the ball the officials were quick to throw a flag, but once the Chiefs went on offense this officiating crew decided to go back to the way playoff games are normally called and they didn't want to affect the game.

That game should have been 10-6 at half and the momentum would have been in KCs favor.

Sure during a game I will bitch about officiating, but once I've had time to think rationally I'm usually not a blame the refs guy. I gave myself some time to think about this loss with a clear head and I still very strongly believe those officials influenced the outcome of that game and it was much more than they typically do.

There was one play towards the end of the game where Suh lunged at Pat leading with his helmet and it looked like he made helmet to helmet contact with Pat, no flag. Another time I saw someone hit Pat in the helmet with their hand, no flag. I saw multiple instances in which a defender made contact with a receiver early or grabbing and holding a receiver after the initial 5 yards.

These guys are playing against the best of the best and it doesn't take many mistakes to cause a superior team to lose to an inferior team. Having shit stain refs that are clearly favoring 1 team over the other can be impossible to over come.

Tom Brady has consistently had the refs help him out. I went back to the NE vs NYG game, which just happens to be the most fairly officiated game and what a surprise the Tom Bradies lost that game, to see how fair the officiating has been.

Tom Brady teams (5 games) - 21 penalties/146 penalty yds/17 1st downs from penalties

His opponents - 40 penalties/344 penalty yds/8 1st downs from penalties

Hell tonight we had 120 penalty yards which is only 26 yds less than Tom's teams have had in 5 games. Tonight Tom's team got 6 first downs from the result of a penalty. That's almost the entire total of his SB opponents combined.

Once again the refs were instrumental in Tom winning another Super Bowl. Tom's and the Patriots dynasty/legacy is the biggest fraud in sports. Phony champions that consistently cheated and required the NFL and refs to bail them out. The sooner that fraud Tom hangs it up the better.

Stop crying, and man up. you were dominated in every facet of the game. You have more excuses than an alcoholic. That was a beating Mahomes took last night, and might be type of beating that last his career.