Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

[staylor26]

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Sorensen is what....30? And on the last year of his deal, I believe. Delpit can step in and replace either Thornhill or Mathieu if we need too.

That's why I like him so much.

A) I think of it almost like adding another CB because it frees up Mathieu to do whatever you want with him and HB LOVED that hybrid role as the season went on last year.

B) Take him in the first and you have him for 5 years. He can pair with Thornhill in a couple years when Mathieu is let go for cap reasons. It opens the door a crack for being able to keep Jones in the cap structure (by losing Mathieu).

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's why I like him so much.

A) I think of it almost like adding another CB because it frees up Mathieu to do whatever you want with him and HB LOVED that hybrid role as the season went on last year.

B) Take him in the first and you have him for 5 years. He can pair with Thornhill in a couple years when Mathieu is let go for cap reasons. It opens the door a crack for being able to keep Jones in the cap structure (by losing Mathieu).

The nice thing about Delpit is he can play single high which allows you take take advantage of having 2 other safeties that can do some CB stuff.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

In 7 years, how much have the Chiefs invested in their interior line?

On the lines in general, they've invested quite a bit.

[Otter]

Cesar Ruiz

[TRR]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I was told this was a bad take yesterday

It was. And still is.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Washington isn't a starter, he's basically a 3rd down back.

I think if anything that move tells me the Chiefs aren't happy with their RB position in general.

Prior to that they had basically Williams and Thompson. So not sure who would be happy if something happened to Williams.


The thing about the Chiefs offense is that it probably does not drop off at all if you had to go with a good third down back playing full time. Rather go that route then a pure running back who has trouble in the passing game.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

On the lines in general, they've invested quite a bit.

Defensive line yes, OL not really..

In Andy Reids entire time here we have 1, 1st round OL, 1 second, and the rest were late round picks...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He has Isiah Simmons athletic makeup, and in todays sub heavy NFL he likely plays a lot but you better be damn sure a guy who spent a lot of time at safety is up to playing weakside LB and sub package LB cause that's what youre drafting him to be and that transition doesn't always work...

Yeah, and you'd better be real confident in the guys you have backing up Spags (should he leave/retire) and coaching up your secondary.

Because Chinn does appear to be a 1st down 'box' safety who you can maybe keep out there on 2nd downs and then move him into that Sorenseon '3rd safety/hybrid linebacker' role on 3rd downs.

Which I'd honestly like to see us getting away from a bit. Gimme an athletic linebacker who I can keep on the field on 3rd downs (Gay or Harrison) over a stiffer safety who I have to hide at LBer on 3rd downs.

And again - I admit that this is likely just a product of me being unwilling to stray too far from convention. But I think you make your teams awfully matchup dependent when you add too many guys like Chinn and I wouldn't want to take him in lieu of an 'easier' fit if one exists.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Shields68

Prior to that they had basically Williams and Thompson. So not sure who would be happy if something happened to Williams.


The thing about the Chiefs offense is that it probably does not drop off at all if you had to go with a good third down back playing full time. Rather go that route then a pure running back who has trouble in the passing game.

Personally I think Damian is safe but it's likely his last year here....the rest of that room is wide open, no one has shown enough to be safe.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The nice thing about Delpit is he can play single high which allows you take take advantage of having 2 other safeties that can do some CB stuff.

All 3 could play CB in a pinch.

You can make your coverages nearly impossible to diagnose. There's just some really fascinating shit a mad tinkerer like Spags could do.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, and you'd better be real confident in the guys you have backing up Spags (should he leave/retire) and coaching up your secondary.

Because Chinn does appear to be a 1st down 'box' safety who you can maybe keep out there on 2nd downs and then move him into that Sorenseon '3rd safety/hybrid linebacker' role on 3rd downs.

Which I'd honestly like to see us getting away from a bit. Gimme an athletic linebacker who I can keep on the field on 3rd downs (Gay or Harrison) over a stiffer safety who I have to hide at LBer on 3rd downs.

And again - I admit that this is likely just a product of me being unwilling to stray too far from convention. But I think you make your teams awfully matchup dependent when you add too many guys like Chinn and I wouldn't want to take him in lieu of an 'easier' fit if one exists.

There are probably at least 10 teams that think Chinn is an everydown LB.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Defensive line yes, OL not really..

In Andy Reids entire time here we have 1, 1st round OL, 1 second, and the rest were late round picks...

And aggressively went after Schwartz in FA.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Shields68

So not sure who would be happy if something happened to Williams.

"Something" happens to Williams each and every year, which is why he has 1,200 rushing yards in 6 NFL seasons.

In no way, shape or form should the Chiefs fool themselves into believing that a 28 year old Damien Williams is suddenly going to be available for all 16 games, let alone 19 games.

Originally Posted by Shields68

The thing about the Chiefs offense is that it probably does not drop off at all if you had to go with a good third down back playing full time. Rather go that route then a pure running back who has trouble in the passing game.

Like the Colts game last year?



If you want to see 16 Chiefs-Colts-like games in 2020, go into the season with the current crop of below average running backs.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There are probably at least 10 teams that think Chinn is an everydown LB.

I don't doubt it.

But like I said, a 220 lb small-school safety is no slam dunk to make the conversion to LBer at the next level.

People fall in love with the Brian Urlacher story and he's the benchmark for college safety conversions, but that dude weighed 250 lbs in college.

There are a LOT more examples of oversized safeties/undersized linebackers simply never finding a role. A lot more of these guys become Dorian O'Daniel or Taylor Mays. If you're lucky.

I won't argue loudly with those that like him - I see why they do. He's just not my thing.

[staylor26]

I think you’re selling Chinn short DJ. The guy gives you versatility like a guy like Delpit does, just in a different form.

Dude was covering AJ Brown two years ago and holding his own. He’s a legitimate chess piece with freakish athleticism and a lot of ball production.