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Old 04-09-2020, 12:29 PM  
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So lets talk some legit options for our pick.
So with Breeland coming back that pretty much leaves us open to take the best player on the board.

I'd like in this thread to post some videos and such since in a lot of threads there are questions about how good a guy is and what he can do so twitter and youtube of course are great for vids.

Even though I've pined for Willie Gay quite a bit there are numerous other guys I'd be fine with using our pick on because well they'd be fine fits.

So I'll start with some Willie Gay video since I've been asked a few times what he's good at...
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Old 04-14-2020, 01:05 PM   #496
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Arnette isn't a bad prospect or anything he just isn't as good as other guys that'll be there.
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Old 04-14-2020, 01:06 PM   #497
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No, this is from Dane Brugler's draft guide and he actually knows his shit.


Damon Arnette sounds a lot like Stephen Nelson, no thanks in the first.
Yes, Brugler had Deshone Kizer ahead of Mahomes.
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Old 04-14-2020, 01:06 PM   #498
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Yea their athletic profiles are near identical. Simmons is a little bigger and a little faster, while Chinn is a little more explosive. It’s very close.

But yea I saw that too. First, Matt Miller reported it than Peter King said a GM told him 40% of teams have Henderson higher. I don’t quite believe it’s that high, but it has to be significant.
Probably preference, because Okudah is big for a CB, he's a little stiff, it's normal for dudes his size.

Henderson is more fluid and he flips and turns faster but he's not nearly as physical, all preference.
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Old 04-14-2020, 01:08 PM   #499
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Yes, Brugler had Deshone Kizer ahead of Mahomes.
Like nobody had Mahomes as #1 QB.
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Probably preference, because Okudah is big for a CB, he's a little stiff, it's normal for dudes his size.

Henderson is more fluid and he flips and turns faster but he's not nearly as physical, all preference.
Yea and I get that part, but Okudah is a significantly better prospect IMO.
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Arnette isn't a bad prospect or anything he just isn't as good as other guys that'll be there.
Chiefs were looking at Byron Murphy and Rock Ya-Sin last year if we didn't trade our 1st round pick.

Arnette > Rock Ya-Sin.
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Old 04-14-2020, 01:12 PM   #502
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If you desire the 9th best CB you shouldn't take him in the first for the simple reason that he'll also be available in the 2nd. This draft is too stacked to reach on a position that isn't a need.

And it isn't a need compared to other positions. Like LB
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Chiefs were looking at Byron Murphy and Rock Ya-Sin last year if we didn't trade our 1st round pick.

Arnette > Rock Ya-Sin.
Different draft class........

If you are telling me you'd rather have Damon Arnette than Xaiver McKinney, Grant Delpit, Antoine Winfield, Patrick Queen, DeAndre Swift, Kristian Fulton, I'm going to look at you funny and at least 3-4 of those dudes I listed will be on the board.
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Like nobody had Mahomes as #1 QB.
Matt Waldman RSP did. He puts out a huge guide every year.

So did Eric Galko, Optimum Scouting.

Hey, even Gruden did on his QB camp on ESPN BEFORE the draft.

Lots were wrong but not everyone.
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Matt Waldman RSP did. He puts out a huge guide every year.

So did Eric Galko, Optimum Scouting.

Hey, even Gruden did on his QB camp on ESPN BEFORE the draft.

Lots were wrong but not everyone.
So like 2 people did? Ok.

Gruden likes everybody.
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Also why draft a CB that is projecting in the 2-3 rounds that is already 24?

He's two years younger than Sammy Watkins.
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Different draft class........

If you are telling me you'd rather have Damon Arnette than Xaiver McKinney, Grant Delpit, Antoine Winfield, Patrick Queen, DeAndre Swift, Kristian Fulton, I'm going to look at you funny and at least 3-4 of those dudes I listed will be on the board.
Patrick Queen fits a bigger need and I would probably have Queen higher.

Swift probably better talent but positional value makes it close.

Like Winfield..not sure what the plan would be for him, would have to think about it more.

Honestly, haven't watched the safeties that much yet. Just finished the WR's.
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So like 2 people did? Ok.

Gruden likes everybody.
Gruden likes everybody because he has to. But when asked which 2017 QB he would choose to draft first he said Mahomes.
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Also why draft a CB that is projecting in the 2-3 rounds that is already 24?

He's two years younger than Sammy Watkins.
I would hope the Chiefs do better work than the amateur mock draft guys..so where he projects to them doesn't matter to me.

But going along with that and assuming it's 2nd round..well, we draft at the end of the 1st...value wise ask any of these people and most will tell you prospects 25-45 are similar in value..comes down to team fit and value of traits. We aren't drafting 12th.
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Gruden likes everybody because he has to. But when asked which 2017 QB he would choose to draft first he said Mahomes.
Hundreds of people whiffed on Mahomes. Whiffing on Pat isn't an auto disqualifier, which is the point I'm making here.
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