Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Does Brett have a crystal ball? It is amazing he traded for Frank and that we end up playing the 49ers in the biggest game of the year.

In Frank, we have a player that is very familiar with their offense and has dominated their O-line by a ridiculous margin.

It does not seem possible he can just shove a 270 to 300-pound man back six feet? His power move almost defies the rules of physics.

McGlinchey is not a great pass blocker, and is still adjusting to the power / speed of the NFL. Clark will have the advantage, but hopefully McGlinchey will be up for the game. Some of those clips McGlinchey just has poor footwork and is not in a position to gain leverage. When you see him run over Clark on running plays, you'll appreciate he has more than enough power to overwhelm Clark. He just needs the footwork to do so.

[wachashi]

Clark is an every down defensive player. He's only on the sidelines when he needs rest. Ford, on the other hand, is a gadget player. He's a specialist, which is why his snap count is so limited.

On top of that, Clark has actually logged MORE sacks than Ford this year. So Clark has outperformed Ford at the ONE thing he brings to the table. Doesn't get any dumber than saying Ford has had a better year than Clark. There's not a GM in football that would choose Ford over Clark.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I keep hearing talking heads say that our only chance to win is Mahomes balling out and scoring a lot of points but truthfully I feel it’s just the same for SF. I’ve got more confidence in KC to get 30 points than I would have about SF.

Garoppolo is the one who is going to have to ball out if they want to win, IMO.

Unless we have a repeat of the first quarter of the Houston game, we're going to win this, and handily.

They can't cover our offensive weapons.

They THINK they can impose their will in the running game, but so did Tennessee.

Their defensive line is very good. So is ours. They're not going to be able to control the game on the ground.

Jimmy GQ will have to light it up. I don't see that happening.

We just need to play well.

They need us to shit down our leg AND they'll need to play well.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

The problem with "everything they do well" is that it completely breaks down on the back end if the quarterback is able to extend the play.

See Murray, Jackson and Wilson, the QB's who had the most success against this D. All of them are "extend the play" kind of guys. Those extra curriculars cause their system to completely break down. They don't have the horses on the backend to survive if the pass rush doesn't get their quickly, and the Qb's ability to escape the pocket really makes them breakdown.

Yep...this is pretty much it. Saleh will have to dial up some interesting blitzes if the front 4 cannot get the ball out of PMII's hands within 4 secs.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by A8bil

Yep...this is pretty much it. Saleh will have to dial up some interesting blitzes if the front 4 cannot get the ball out of PMII's hands within 4 secs.

four seconds? That's a ****ing lifetime.

Hill, Watkins, and Hardman are 30 yards downfield in 4 seconds.

[Deebo19]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Unless we have a repeat of the first quarter of the Houston game, we're going to win this, and handily.

They can't cover our offensive weapons.

They THINK they can impose their will in the running game, but so did Tennessee.

Their defensive line is very good. So is ours. They're not going to be able to control the game on the ground.

Jimmy GQ will have to light it up. I don't see that happening.

We just need to play well.

They need us to shit down our leg AND they'll need to play well.

What does this mean? You think you’re going to drop 60? Hope your players bring their diapers!

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

four seconds? That's a ****ing lifetime.

Hill, Watkins, and Hardman are 30 yards downfield in 4 seconds.

It is and it isn't...avg pass play is mid-3 seconds. The broken, backyard play typically runs much longer. 49ers can defend well for 4 secs. Over that, and they will lose coverage on Hill, Hardman, Watkins and Kelce, and PMII will make them pay.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Deebo19

What does this mean? You think you’re going to drop 60? Hope your players bring their diapers!

You're in for a rude ****ing awakening come Sunday, Dumbo.

[Deebo19]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Clark is an every down defensive player. He's only on the sidelines when he needs rest. Ford, on the other hand, is a gadget player. He's a specialist, which is why his snap count is so limited.

On top of that, Clark has actually logged MORE sacks than Ford this year. So Clark has outperformed Ford at the ONE thing he brings to the table. Doesn't get any dumber than saying Ford has had a better year than Clark. There's not a GM in football that would choose Ford over Clark.

Clark - 8 sacks in 16 games
Ford - 6.5 sack in 10 games

You guys are really special on this board. Who knew Chiefs fans are so clueless

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Deebo19

What does this mean? You think you’re going to drop 60? Hope your players bring their diapers!

naw, I'm figuring 35-17 Chiefs.

[Pushead2]

Originally Posted by Deebo19

Clark - 8 sacks in 16 games
Ford - 6.5 sack in 10 games

You guys are really special on this board. Who knew Chiefs fans are so clueless

All I need to know about Dee Ford.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Deebo19

What does this mean? You think you’re going to drop 60? Hope your players bring their diapers!

You gonna come back after we beat you by 20 plus and take your whoopin'?

Or are you just going to be a little bitch and disappear like the Pats, Ravens, Texans, and Titans fans all did?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by A8bil

McGlinchey is not a great pass blocker, and is still adjusting to the power / speed of the NFL. Clark will have the advantage, but hopefully McGlinchey will be up for the game. Some of those clips McGlinchey just has poor footwork and is not in a position to gain leverage. When you see him run over Clark on running plays, you'll appreciate he has more than enough power to overwhelm Clark. He just needs the footwork to do so.

Oh.

Well I guess if he's just adjusting then Frank Clark will take it easy on him. I mean if he's not very good at pass-pro, then we should probably have Clark play with a hand tied behind his back to even things up.

I mean...what the **** even is this?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by A8bil

Yep...this is pretty much it. Saleh will have to dial up some interesting blitzes if the front 4 cannot get the ball out of PMII's hands within 4 secs.

Try 2, bud.

If Mahomes gets as much as 3 seconds to throw, he'll vivisect that secondary.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by A8bil

It is and it isn't...avg pass play is mid-3 seconds. The broken, backyard play typically runs much longer. 49ers can defend well for 4 secs. Over that, and they will lose coverage on Hill, Hardman, Watkins and Kelce, and PMII will make them pay.

Not in zone coverage.

You give Mahomes 3 seconds against a zone and you're done. Good man coverage can push plays longer because you simply run different routes against it, especially with these kinds of weapons.

But presuming you fellas stick with a 2-high safety look and some kind of cover 3 system, guys like Kelce and Watkins will be looking to settle into zones within 2-3 seconds and the ball will be halfway there by the time they settle.

You best hope Saleh's adjusted his internal clock because 3 seconds is an eternity for Mahomes against zone looks.