Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I just think the idea that Saleh would completely forego everything they do well for this one game is crazy.

Sherman has made a HOF career out of playing zone techniques and now they’re going to ask him to man up this speed for most of a game? It just makes zero sense.

Maybe in some spots, but they aren’t going to do that regularly.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here's Mike McGlinchey taking on Frank Clark...

#69 Mike McGlinchey wants no part of Frank Clark. #Chiefs | #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/CK2ydBmtSY

— Chiefs Channel (@ChiefsChannel) January 30, 2020

Originally Posted by Hern

These guys are used to playing Clark since he was in Seattle. Old news.

Yeah, like i said, these people are stupid.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Mecca

By that point in his career he'll probably also be ready to stop being a LB and just put his hand on the ground and play end all the time...could see it.

Mmmmhmmmmm.

[anaheimkcfan]

Honey Badger will be SB MVP. I have no analysis or intelligent backup other than a gut feeling that he will make a play that will break the niners.

also

niners' D < Mahomes, Reid and Friends
Garoppolo + Shanny < Chiefs' D

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I just think the idea that Saleh would completely forego everything they do well for this one game is crazy.

Sherman has made a HOF career out of playing zone techniques and now they’re going to ask him to man up this speed for most of a game? It just makes zero sense.

Maybe in some spots, but they aren’t going to do that regularly.

If they go man they are going to have to send the house because those CBs won't survive more than maybe 1 second in that kind of matchup.

[wachashi]

From Sheil Kapadia of The Athletic on SB prop bets. He's taking the Chiefs at -1 by the way:

Total yards of 49ers TDs: Over 45.5 (-115)

They had 18 touchdowns of 20-plus yards in the regular season. That was tied for second most behind only the Chiefs. I think the 49ers will be able to hit on some explosive plays in this one, and the over might hit by halftime. If you’re wondering about the Chiefs for this same bet, their over/under is 59.5 yards.

Damien Williams 53.5 rushing yards: Under (-115)

This is Reid’s second Super Bowl appearance and his best chance to take home a title. Only the 2018 Steelers passed at a higher rate than the 2019 Chiefs. You don’t really think Reid is going to go into this game wanting to run the ball, do you? Williams has totaled just 92 yards on 29 carries (3.2 per carry) in two playoff games.

Jimmy Garoppolo 19.5 completions: Over (-110)

Eight pass attempts is not going to cut it in this game. Garoppolo is going to have to throw the ball. He went over 19.5 completions eight times during the regular season, and as noted in our analytical preview, Garoppolo’s expected completion percentage was third-highest in the league. In other words, the scheme allows for some high-percentage completions. I think he’s in the 20s in this game.

Patrick Mahomes 31.5 rushing yards: Under (-103)

The fact that he’s run for 106 yards in two playoff games has bumped this number up. But the 49ers play a lot of zone, meaning their defenders will have eyes on the quarterback. And they’re fast and athletic at linebacker. Maybe Mahomes picks up a first down or two with his legs, but I don’t think his rushing is going to be a big factor.

Number of players to have a passing attempt: Over 2.5 (+124)

The Super Bowl is when coaches empty out the playbook. In Super Bowl LII between the Eagles and Patriots, four players attempted a pass. The year before, the number was three. I’m saying either Reid or Shanahan pulls out a trick play, or maybe we see a fake punt or fake field goal to push the over.

Emmanuel Sanders more receiving yards than Sammy Watkins: (+115)

Sanders has been quiet (just two catches for 33 yards in two playoff games), but he played really well for the 49ers earlier this season, with 157 yards in a win over the Saints and 112 yards in a victory over the Cardinals. It’s not like he’s been phased out. Sanders played 86 percent of the snaps against the Vikings and 75 percent of the snaps against the Packers. The 49ers just didn’t pass a lot. Watkins had a flukey 60-yard TD against the Titans that resulted from a defensive back falling down. Overall, Mahomes has completed just 55.6 percent of his attempts when targeting Watkins. I think Watkins is going to have a tough time getting free against the 49ers defense.

Any player to score 2-plus TDs: No (+260)

There are a lot of great players in this game: Travis Kelce, Tyreek Hill, George Kittle. But scoring two touchdowns in a game is hard. Kelce has done it once in 18 games. Kittle hasn’t done it at all. Hill did it three times. Maybe he burns you, or someone like Williams or Raheem Mostert scores twice, but I still like the odds.

First INT by a player: Tyrann Mathieu (+650)

This is a fun long shot — especially if you’re rooting for the Chiefs. One of Mathieu’s roles in Kansas City’s defense is to be a robber, meaning a low-hole defender who reads the eyes of the quarterback and takes away in-breaking routes. When Garoppolo has thrown picks this year, it’s often been underneath defenders who have gotten him. That could mean Mathieu, who had four interceptions during the regular season.

Player to have most receiving yards: Deebo Samuel (+750)

And one last long shot. Again, I think the 49ers are going to have to throw in this game. In the second half of the season, Samuel had three games when he totaled more than 100 yards. Even though he’s a rookie, Samuel has been one of the best receivers in the NFL after the catch. And he rarely comes off the field. I think he offers good value here.

[Mecca]

Also some film review guys are pointing out how much Shanahan does not trust Jimmy. Showing multiple examples of his poor decision making and how at this time he's only asked to read 1 side of the field.

Lots of, 1 read 2 read and he never turns to the other side of the field, if they aren't there he just chucks it away or well forces it.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I just think the idea that Saleh would completely forego everything they do well for this one game is crazy.

Sherman has made a HOF career out of playing zone techniques and now they’re going to ask him to man up this speed for most of a game? It just makes zero sense.

Maybe in some spots, but they aren’t going to do that regularly.

The problem with "everything they do well" is that it completely breaks down on the back end if the quarterback is able to extend the play.

See Murray, Jackson and Wilson, the QB's who had the most success against this D. All of them are "extend the play" kind of guys. Those extra curriculars cause their system to completely break down. They don't have the horses on the backend to survive if the pass rush doesn't get their quickly, and the Qb's ability to escape the pocket really makes them breakdown.

Im tellin' ya guys, man, much like the Titans game: The more i learn about the match ups the more my confidence grows.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yeah, like i said, these people are stupid.

Does Brett have a crystal ball? It is amazing he traded for Frank and that we end up playing the 49ers in the biggest game of the year.

In Frank, we have a player that is very familiar with their offense and has dominated their O-line by a ridiculous margin.

It does not seem possible he can just shove a 270 to 300-pound man back six feet? His power move almost defies the rules of physics.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Absolutely. Person, Richberg and Tomlinson gonna need to eat their mother****ing Wheaties, because it's gonna be a long day for them scrub ass bitches, son.

Richburg has been on IR since week 15. Garland is playing for him.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Does Brett have a crystal ball? It is amazing he traded for Frank and that we end up playing the 49ers in the biggest game of the year.

In Frank, we have a player that is very familiar with their offense and has dominated their O-line by a ridiculous margin.

It does not seem possible he can just shove a 270 to 300-pound man back six feet? His power move almost defies the rules of physics.

FRANK CLARK IS GOING TO MURDER THEM!!!

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Right?

And I LIKE Buckner. I liked Buckner last season before half these ass-clowns knew the dude's name. I liked the dude coming out of Oregon before he kinda sputtered out of the chute in his first couple years.

The guy's a really nice player and a difficult matchup in the middle because of his length.

But FFS, Chris Jones is the 2nd best DT in the league and really there's probably less of a gap between him and Donald than there is between him and Buckner.

That's just laughable.

Can't agree...I think Buckner and Jones are pretty comparable. Right now, Buckner's not getting the sacks and pressures he got last year because of scheme. 49ers run a lot of twist stunts and Buckner is usually the guy crashing out on the blockers to allow Bosa or Ford to twist to the inside. Sacrifice for the betterment of the team. He's still a monster.

What's with the down votes? Both Buckner and Jones are 2nd team all pro. Buckner would have more recognition if the 49ers didn't suck the last two years. You're kidding yourself if you don't think they're comparable. Now Armstead, he has the stats this year, but he's nowhere near as good as those two.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

The problem with "everything they do well" is that it completely breaks down on the back end if the quarterback is able to extend the play.

See Murray, Jackson and Wilson, the QB's who had the most success against this D. All of them are "extend the play" kind of guys. Those extra curriculars cause their system to completely break down. They don't have the horses on the backend to survive if the pass rush doesn't get their quickly, and the Qb's ability to escape the pocket really makes them breakdown.

Im tellin' ya guys, man, much like the Titans game: The more i learn about the match ups the more my confidence grows.

I keep hearing talking heads say that our only chance to win is Mahomes balling out and scoring a lot of points but truthfully I feel it’s just the same for SF. I’ve got more confidence in KC to get 30 points than I would have about SF.

Garoppolo is the one who is going to have to ball out if they want to win, IMO.

[Chris Meck]

Clark's going to have a huge game.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Clark's going to have a huge game.

My money's on Jones.

Because so is his...