Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)

[TLO]

Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Exactly. Nobody can sit here and tell me the 49ers dealt with more adversity in terms of injuries than us either.

Hill alone missed more games than Kittle, Buckner, Bosa, Jimmy G, and Sherman combined.

But Akhello Witherspoon got hurt!!!

before he got benched

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But Akhello Witherspoon got hurt!!!

before he got benched

Yup. These are the kind of names they throw out there when they talk about injuries. The only area where they legit had some bad luck is the OL.

Telling Chiefs fans you were unfortunate because Dee Ford was injured is hilarious.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Telling Chiefs fans you were unfortunate because Dee Ford was injured is hilarious.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The sad part is his is by far the biggest/longest injury they had.

Their pass rush dropped big time with Ford out. He’s mainly who they’re talking about when they say they’re healthy now.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The sad part is his is by far the biggest/longest injury they had.

Their pass rush dropped big time with Ford out. He’s mainly who they’re talking about when they say they’re healthy now.

And he hasn't practiced 100% since by the way. Not even this past week.

Doesn't mean he won't play but the dude is a walking injury report.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The sad part is it’s by far the biggest/longest injury they had.

Their pass rush dropped big time with Ford out. He’s mainly who they’re talking about when they say they’re healthy now.

Yeah, Ford's no joke for those guys. He makes that pass rush level up in a big way.

Without him, they're just pretty good. But they're nothing we haven't seen a few times this year.

WITH him, they're a problem. But as Duncan has pointed out, can they really get away with having him out there on a bunch of 1st and 2nd downs? And I don't even mean from a "we'll just run at him" standpoint, but the dude's just not played a lot of football this year and he's gonna struggle to get through 60 snaps. He's talked several times about the nagging shit he's working through and he just cannot hold up for that many snaps without being completely gassed.

This team is just as likely to whip one 30 yards downfield on 1st and 2nd down as it is on 3rd. You can't just play them straight up and act like only 3rd and 8 is a 'passing down'. This is Andy Reid - EVERY down is a passing down and Mahomes runs this offense so efficiently that if you're sitting there holding Ford back for the right situation, Mahomes will have them in the end-zone in 5 plays and Ford will have just gotten a nice little rest.

Ford's their pivot point, but he's not a guy they can just set and forget. They've gotta ration his snaps somehow and that could really burn them.

I'd almost treat him like a basketball player and put him on a rotation by quarter. Run him hard in the 1st, sit him in the 2nd, hard for the first couple drives of the 3rd and then sit him until the last drive or two of the game.

I just don't see a way to 'mix and match' his usage and have it work out.

[The Franchise]

Getting Chiefs fans to feel sorry for you about injuries is going to be damn near impossible.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Getting Chiefs fans to feel sorry for you about injuries is going to be damn near impossible.

Amen.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Exactly. Nobody can sit here and tell me the 49ers dealt with more adversity in terms of injuries than us either.

Hill alone missed more games than Kittle, Buckner, Bosa, Jimmy G, and Sherman combined.

They’ve gone along this year by pure talent and luck. They haven’t had much experience against adversity and their schedule was very weak.

They better hope they don’t fall behind by double-digits early or it could get messy for them. They haven’t been challenged like that ball year in a big game.

[Chief Northman]

Any KC fan overlooking this 49ers team is nuts. They are elite. That being said they are not invincible.

The KC defense will ultimately decide this game, And it will come down to how effectively the LB corps controls the 49ers running backs in the passing game. The Packers exposed the Chiefs defence by finding this gross mismatch, and I pray to God that Spags helps the lack of talent this roster has at linebacker through some scheme adjustments, because Shanahan will sure test that unit.
I expect Shanahan to try to tendency break and come out throwing early to soften up the Chiefs secondary, and when they back off a bit, that is when they will employ heavy doses of the outside zone run. It would be nice if the secondary can generate a couple turnovers because I think the Chiefs will need some extra possessions to ultimately beat this 49ers team. That being said, I do like how the Chiefs offense matches up against the 49ers defence. The Chiefs offensive line is under the radar right now and has been outstanding the entire postseason. If they stay true to form, Mahomes could go off big time.
Take the over.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Getting Chiefs fans to feel sorry for you about injuries is going to be damn near impossible.

Remember that time that the dude we've been waiting 40 years for had his knee cocked at a 90 degree angle to the rest of his leg in a prime-time game?

"Oh yeah? We lost Garrett Celek! That's like the 2nd best Celek brother!!"

Chodes.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Any KC fan overlooking this 49ers team is nuts. They are elite. That being said they are not invincible.

The KC defense will ultimately decide this game, And it will come down to how effectively the LB corps controls the 49ers running backs in the passing game. The Packers exposed the Chiefs defence by finding this gross mismatch, and I pray to God that Spags helps the lack of talent this roster has at linebacker through some scheme adjustments, because Shanahan will sure test that unit.
I expect Shanahan to try to tendency break and come out throwing early to soften up the Chiefs secondary, and when they back off a bit, that is when they will employ heavy doses of the outside zone run. It would be nice if the secondary can generate a couple turnovers because I think the Chiefs will need some extra possessions to ultimately beat this 49ers team. That being said, I do like how the Chiefs offense matches up against the 49ers defence. The Chiefs offensive line is under the radar right now and has been outstanding the entire postseason. If they stay true to form, Mahomes could go off big time.
Take the over.

Spags made immediate adjustments that were reflected in a big way against Cook and the Vikings the following week.

He stopped playing the RB nearly as straight up and they started making a fair number of pretty varied shifts to get acceptable matchups on the RBs.

Would I rather see Darron Lee have developed into a genuine starting caliber player so we could have his speed out there instead of Spags being forced to scheme around Reggie Ragland's heavy feet? Yup - but it didn't happen.

But we know Spags won't get caught napping. The guy knows where this defense has issues and he'll pull every lever at this point to try to cover them.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Spags made immediate adjustments that were reflected in a big way against Cook and the Vikings the following week.

He stopped playing the RB nearly as straight up and they started making a fair number of pretty varied shifts to get acceptable matchups on the RBs.

Would I rather see Darron Lee have developed into a genuine starting caliber player so we could have his speed out there instead of Spags being forced to scheme around Reggie Ragland's heavy feet? Yup - but it didn't happen.

But we know Spags won't get caught napping. The guy knows where this defense has issues and he'll pull every lever at this point to try to cover them.

I did like seeing the resurrection of Dorian O’Daniel the past two playoff games. Even in limited action, he made some nice plays in a spy role and accounting for short zone responsibilities against running backs. He’s a pretty dependable tackler and Niemann has also improved in this regard. I believe the Titans offensive line is better than that of the 49ers, but Shanahan’s run scheme is so much more multiple in that it will really test the discipline of this defence with so much misdirection and a mix of zone and gap scheme.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Any KC fan overlooking this 49ers team is nuts. They are elite. That being said they are not invincible.

The KC defense will ultimately decide this game, And it will come down to how effectively the LB corps controls the 49ers running backs in the passing game. The Packers exposed the Chiefs defence by finding this gross mismatch, and I pray to God that Spags helps the lack of talent this roster has at linebacker through some scheme adjustments, because Shanahan will sure test that unit.
I expect Shanahan to try to tendency break and come out throwing early to soften up the Chiefs secondary, and when they back off a bit, that is when they will employ heavy doses of the outside zone run. It would be nice if the secondary can generate a couple turnovers because I think the Chiefs will need some extra possessions to ultimately beat this 49ers team. That being said, I do like how the Chiefs offense matches up against the 49ers defence. The Chiefs offensive line is under the radar right now and has been outstanding the entire postseason. If they stay true to form, Mahomes could go off big time.
Take the over.

Who is overlooking them? Nobody said it’s going to be easy, but the truth is people like you are overrating them.

For example, the Chiefs will need extra possessions (plural too? lmao) to win? They aren’t that good to where I’m going into this game thinking that, but I respect them enough to know that we can’t GIVE them extra possessions and expect to win.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Who is overlooking them? Nobody said it’s going to be easy, but the truth is people like you are overrating them.

For example, the Chiefs will need extra possessions (plural too? lmao) to win? They aren’t that good to where I’m going into this game thinking that, but I respect them enough to know that we can’t GIVE them extra possessions and expect to win.

Jesus, just read the predictions thread. A lot of posters here are calling a Chiefs blowout. I’m glad they are confident, but logic and the eye test says this will be a closely contested game.

As far as my comment regarding extra possessions, I guess I’m just hoping that things go our way with regards to turnovers as the Texans game showed us a team that was not ready to play from the opening kick off. Thankfully once the offense began to wake up, and Sorenson made those great effort plays, things turned around. I don’t know if the 49ers will afford the Chiefs many opportunities for momentum changing plays. I agree with what you say about us not being able to afford to give them anything extra. Toub is the guy I trust the least right now from a coaching perspective. There have been way too many breakdowns with special teams this late in the season.